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Old 02-05-2010, 12:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey. Most dealers in 'cold weather areas' are being notified about this, but for those of you who want to do it yourself, or have a dealer that is unaware, here is the handy dandy KiaTech guide to solving the Strut Bump Noise!

If you have an intermittent sound from your front end over bumps - it's been described as a knock, clock, thump, bump... all descriptions are a 'soft' sound as opposed to a metal on metal clank, tap or rap - then the first thing you should be looking at is the dust cover/bump stop on the front struts. In colder weather the friction fit of the bump stop against the shock rod is insufficient to keep the bump stop at the top, so it falls down along the shock. This is then struck by the shock body coming up to meet it on compressions, and so it makes a sound. This is a REALLY easy fix, and takes about 15-30 minutes per side, depending on facilities.

Start by raising the vehicle, so the strut is at full extension. Jack the body, not the control arm. Support the vehicle with stands, etc. Safety first, of course.

Now you're able to properly inspect and see if your boots are knocking (couldn't resist...). If they look like the picture below, then you have a problem!




Now all you'll need is a short shopping list. I suggest brake cleaner, a few rags and a tube of urethane. RTV or silicone may work temporarily, but as we proved in the shop this week, it's best to use the best.

Clean the area as absolutely best as possible. The areas you want to focus on are where the green dots are in the picture above. The top of the bumpstop (inside the boot) needs to be glued to the bottom of the strut insulator, so really give it a solid scrubbing. The brake cleaner will soften up the undercoating overspray as well, so now's a good time to take care of the unsightly mess (if you are into that kind of thing).

Once that's done, layer on a heavy 1/4" thick layer up there. You are not going to do any harm if it happens to ooze out a little. You really want to make sure this is done right once, so be liberal. This is just a single glob on there, to show where it should go.



Then just push the boot up to the top, and secure it to cure up. Two options here, one is you can move the bottom of the boot over a little, and it'll sit on the top of the shock body and hold itself in place. Option two is to place something like a long handled wrench as in the pic, below.



After a cure time (depending on the product) you are good to go.

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Old 02-05-2010, 07:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey,

Do you know when all dealers will be Notified her in Canada? Or do you have any reference to something my Kia dealer ship can look at? I'm going back today to have one of them in the car with me as I drive. Last time i droped the car off they said they didn't hear anything.......But as soon as i took it home I could hear it plan as day

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I agree with Kiatech,just fixed this and no sound now or verry smooth on scrap roads
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Thanks for taking the time to post this KiaTech! I called my dealer to let them know about your post so they can keep an eye out for any owners that complain about a soft thud in the front.
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I get it fixed last monday at my dealer and that's what they do no one bolts was removed no clunk noise anymore
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I submitted a trouble ticket to Kia Canada's tech help line, and they told me to refer to that file when submitting my times for warranty pay. I imagine they should have something comeing out soon, though.
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Nice thing about this is you can look with a flashlight to see if the boots are up in the socket with the car on the ground...
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I submitted a trouble ticket to Kia Canada's tech help line, and they told me to refer to that file when submitting my times for warranty pay. I imagine they should have something comeing out soon, though.
Any concern about the urethane adhesive getting on the strut piston? That's a highly polished piece for a reason, and the dust boot is supposed to keep dirt from getting on the exposed portion of the piston and then down at the seal.

So I'd be a little concerned about excess glue on the rod damaging the seal if it travels that far. I wouldn't want it applied on the top of the dust boot if it's as low on the rod as in that first pic. Maybe more sparingly on the glue and with the boot already in place very near the top of the strut.
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Not a concern at all, as the boot covers a bump stop, which is about 4" long. If any urethane gets on the shock rod, it is covered by the bump stop, and the shock body will reach the bump stop before reaching any of the previously exposed shock rod which may have had a thin coat. The tolerance between the top of the hat, and the shock rod (where the urethane would smear) is only a thou or two... it's small enough that the friction is not holding it up, and allowing it to slide down. So a layer so "wafer thin" on the rod is not going to have much resistance.

As well, while urethane is as sticky as anything, it doesn't like to adhere to smooth surfaces and stays soft and gummy-like. Should in the off-chance any should come into contact with the seal, the seal would simply clean it off, to absolutely no detriment.
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Good to know, thanks KiaTech.
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I completed this fix after the dealer turned me away twice refusing to do it. Thanks KIA tech, now I can enjoy my quiet ride!
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my dealer did the same thing to me they told me they work just fine. i have tryed many times to do this and i cant get the boots to stay up. here is what im working with. do i just have the wrong stuff? let me kno
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That's the right stuff, but maybe you're not 100% clean and dry on the mating surfaces? If you try to 're-do' it, you need to remove as much of the goop as possible. Also, let it set for a few hours if possible, as I illustrated in the last picture.

Otherwise, I really don't know why it wouldn't be working for you. Maybe post a picture or a detailed description of your process? This could be good to have in case others are having the same issue.
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ill try once more but this will be the 3ed time every time i set it i leave it over night to set and by the trip to work in the morin it falls back down ill let you kno what happens

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