If it's the same sound my car has, then don't be overly worried about it. I was at first, but then so many other people described the same thing here and on other Forte forums, in response to my posts on the subject, that I felt better about that noise in my car's engine.
Remember, we have a 10 year/100k mile powertrain warranty. Just keep records of your oil changes and receipts if you're doing them yourself.
Good luck with your new Kia!
Last edited by Silver2010; 02-17-2010 at 12:39 AM.
LOL. you're dreaming. And ditto on "consulting a professional before leading people astray here". Did you not incorrectly say that oil flow and oil pressure are the same thing?
If oil remaining to coat engine parts between starts was unimportant, as you claim, then modern oils wouldn't have additives that enhance that very characteristic. You might want to look into that also.
Oh, and several Kia dealers in my area use a 10w-30 for their oil changes. I've contacted several. Imagine that! They aren't servicing lawnmowers there, LOL!
Never said they were the same thing....I was correcting your inference that pressure was more important than flow at startup. Pressure is caused by resistance. When there is no resistance, there is no pressure. 5W oils create less pressure than 10W when cold because they offer less resistance in tight spaces (i.e. inside the pump and inside lines). Pressure at statup is pointless. Flow is what you need.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but I would like you to get your "chemical engineer" father to quote on a public forum that 10W oils are better than 5W when cold...if engine oils are even remotely related to his profession. If not, then don't bother. And I'd like the dealer names please....because I'll be happy to call your bluff and give them a call myself. I provided documented proof that thinner is better at startup....where's your proof to the contrary?
^^^Now now guys no need for a pissing contest lol.. Who's right and wrong doesn't matter anymore just agree to disagree ok? No need to have brand new enemies just some helpful online advice...
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Never said they were the same thing....I was correcting your inference that pressure was more important than flow at startup. Pressure is caused by resistance. When there is no resistance, there is no pressure. 5W oils create less pressure than 10W when cold because they offer less resistance in tight spaces (i.e. inside the pump and inside lines). Pressure at statup is pointless. Flow is what you need.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but I would like you to get your "chemical engineer" father to quote on a public forum that 10W oils are better than 5W when cold...if engine oils are even remotely related to his profession. If not, then don't bother. And I'd like the dealer names please....because I'll be happy to call your bluff and give them a call myself. I provided documented proof that thinner is better at startup....where's your proof to the contrary?
<< Never said they were the same thing....I was correcting your inference that pressure was more important than flow at startup. >>
Really? Here's your quote:
<< And you're wrong about which builds pressure more quickly. Thinner oil, when cold, flows faster. >>
Uh, what exactly did you mean? LOL.
And now a new completely wrong assertion:
<< Pressure at statup is pointless. >>
You need to seriously gain some basic knowledge on this. Unbelievable!
And, of course, you feel that 10w-30 oil is only "fit for lawnmowers". (shakes head). Where do you come up with all this nonsense? Is it a case where a little knowledge can be dangerous in the wrong hands?
Call Kia dealers in the SF Bay Area and LA area and ask them what oil they use for Kia oil changes. There are dozens of dealers in those areas. Most are using 5w-30, some adhering to 5w-20 and several also using 10w-30, as it covers most temp conditions the best.
You have a lot to learn, including not insulting someone's father here. I think you're a novice shooting off his mouth.
Call a bunch of Kia dealers of your own choosing then, see what they say. While you're at it, call some Honda dealers, see if none of them are using 10w-30...you know, the "lawnmower oil". Still lauging at that one!
I'm not going to do your work for you.
I quoted you directly on your idiotic stmts regarding oil. And you can't refute it, can you?
And I see you like calling people a "liar" here. You call me a liar based on YOUR insistence that no dealers use 10w-30 oil?...?? Are you totally clueless or what?
You're a real piece of work! Get your sh*t together before talking to me again here.
One thing you don't have to worry about is me talking to you again here.
You're the one that claimed that there are all sorts of dealers using 10W-30, and that YOU had called them. Yet you can't provide me that information. It's not a burden of proof on me, it's on you. But the simple fact that you lied about it is causing you to push it back on me. It's your story, stick to it. Liar.
LOL! Nice try. Call any Kia dealers you like in warmer climate locations, dufus.
I suppose I also need to list all the oil brand sites to prove to you that 10w-30 is not just "fit for lawnmowers". A braindead stmt if I ever saw one.
You're obviously a total poseur.
CorsaKoup must have been in 'Home economics" class while the rest of us were in 'Auto Shop'. (chuckle, chuckle).
I don't like when someone distorts my words in an attempt to cover his ass.
I started this thread to get some feedback on what weight oil owners are using and why. Then I get challenged by this guy and a bunch of BS from him. Oil facts according to an internet forum site, LOL.
"Most are using 5w-30, some adhering to 5w-20 and several also using 10w-30, as it covers most temp conditions the best."
Keep calling...try dealers in Calif, Arizona, and Florida.
I already did this 3 months ago when I bought my Kia. We actually had a couple of members post in another thread awhile back that their dealer in Florida and Texas stated to them that they use 10w-30 for their Kia oil changes...and that it was noted on their service invoice.
Kia recommends 5w-20, they don't mandate it. Most Kia dealers are not stand-alone, but combined with Chevrolet, GMC, Jeep, Lincoln-Mercury, etc.
Dealers use bulk oil in drums. They don't bother with several drums of every different weight per every car owners manual. They typically use an oil weight that covers not only their area's temp range best, but also the many different cars they sell and service. In many cases this is 10w-30, despite car mfgrs recently moving away from recommending it.
Is the blood beginning to flow yet?...
Last edited by Silver2010; 02-17-2010 at 04:53 PM.
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