Greetings folks. Hoping I can get a little assistance, or at least offer some help to the next person to do a search for a P0017 ODBII Code.
Culprit is my 2011 Forte SX (Hatchback). Its got 65k on the Odo, Oil changes have been done fairly regularly full Synthetic at 5-6k intervals. Although this last oil change before the CEL came on might of been a little higher as I forgot to write down my mileage last time. Car is stock. K&N Air Filter, 60% Highway Miles, 40% City and usually see about 26-27mpg combined mileage.
Chain of events. Due for an oil change so I went to walmart. My regular Purilator Oil filter was out of stock so against my better judgement, I grabbed the Fram ExtraGuard. thinking it would be better than the base junk fram.
Oil was Mobil 1 5w20 Full Synthetic.
I do the oil change like Normal, start the car up and everything seems normal. Quick test drive. Pull it back home, Double check the oil level and everything looks perfect.
Next day, I start the car, CEL comes on. Car seems to be running fine. I pull the codes and get a 0017. I clear the code and head to work.
2 days go by. no more code. just when I thought it was a fluke code, I get the CEL after a startup. drat.
I got to work, and did some googleing on the problem. A few "Dirty oil" threads. a few Picky oil filter Threads, I decide to pick up a new Oil filter on the way home and get that Fram off the engine.
Stop at the local AutoZone and pick up a Bosch Premium Filter (Appears to be the same as the Purolator I generally use)
Get home, Spin the Fram off, Spin the new filter on. Start the car up, recheck and top off oil. Hook scanner back up and see the 0017 still there so I do a Code reset.
Code goes away again.
Car seems to be running just fine at this point. power seems fine, engine seems smooth.
I drive for three days and tonight, as I started up the car it seemed to stutter just a smidge as it fired up and the CEL came back on.
Shut the car back down and attached my scanner. 0017 was back. I leave the scanner on for the drive home. Power seemed to be down a bit, but certainly not crippled.
I was trained as a Mechanic/Technician in the early 90's so I know my way around an engine but I dont work in the field anymore, but I am very comfortable working on my car myself.
Seems a trip to the dealer is going to cost me at least $200 so I figured I'd order the suspect Sensors and swap em myself and post a thread here before trying that.
Ordered a Cam Position Sensor, a Crank Position Sensor and the CVVT Solenoid. All three should be here Saturday and cost me $150 delivered and looks like all three are pretty easy to get to.
Im suspecting the CVVT Solenoid since it came on just after an oil change. Maybe something loosened up at the change and got lodged in the solenoid?
I guess My questions at this point is....
Does my troubleshooting and plan of action seem reasonable? Am I missing anything?
Does anyone think trying a OEM oil filter would net a better result than the Bosch?
Thanks Folks.
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Culprit is my 2011 Forte SX (Hatchback). Its got 65k on the Odo, Oil changes have been done fairly regularly full Synthetic at 5-6k intervals. Although this last oil change before the CEL came on might of been a little higher as I forgot to write down my mileage last time. Car is stock. K&N Air Filter, 60% Highway Miles, 40% City and usually see about 26-27mpg combined mileage.
Chain of events. Due for an oil change so I went to walmart. My regular Purilator Oil filter was out of stock so against my better judgement, I grabbed the Fram ExtraGuard. thinking it would be better than the base junk fram.
Oil was Mobil 1 5w20 Full Synthetic.
I do the oil change like Normal, start the car up and everything seems normal. Quick test drive. Pull it back home, Double check the oil level and everything looks perfect.
Next day, I start the car, CEL comes on. Car seems to be running fine. I pull the codes and get a 0017. I clear the code and head to work.
2 days go by. no more code. just when I thought it was a fluke code, I get the CEL after a startup. drat.
I got to work, and did some googleing on the problem. A few "Dirty oil" threads. a few Picky oil filter Threads, I decide to pick up a new Oil filter on the way home and get that Fram off the engine.
Stop at the local AutoZone and pick up a Bosch Premium Filter (Appears to be the same as the Purolator I generally use)
Get home, Spin the Fram off, Spin the new filter on. Start the car up, recheck and top off oil. Hook scanner back up and see the 0017 still there so I do a Code reset.
Code goes away again.
Car seems to be running just fine at this point. power seems fine, engine seems smooth.
I drive for three days and tonight, as I started up the car it seemed to stutter just a smidge as it fired up and the CEL came back on.
Shut the car back down and attached my scanner. 0017 was back. I leave the scanner on for the drive home. Power seemed to be down a bit, but certainly not crippled.
I was trained as a Mechanic/Technician in the early 90's so I know my way around an engine but I dont work in the field anymore, but I am very comfortable working on my car myself.
Seems a trip to the dealer is going to cost me at least $200 so I figured I'd order the suspect Sensors and swap em myself and post a thread here before trying that.
Ordered a Cam Position Sensor, a Crank Position Sensor and the CVVT Solenoid. All three should be here Saturday and cost me $150 delivered and looks like all three are pretty easy to get to.
Im suspecting the CVVT Solenoid since it came on just after an oil change. Maybe something loosened up at the change and got lodged in the solenoid?
I guess My questions at this point is....
Does my troubleshooting and plan of action seem reasonable? Am I missing anything?
Does anyone think trying a OEM oil filter would net a better result than the Bosch?
Thanks Folks.
http://www.kia-forums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1485313