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#1 Old 08-29-2010, 04:34 PM
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ok- never heard of this stuff before i came across mention of it in the
xXRockAweaRXx, 2010 Scion tC, WandersX, Crock89, Car Meet 2010
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so i look up reviews on line- and seems that it doesnt work that well on black cars.....
anyone here use that stuff regularly on a black forte ?

from reviews that specifically mention black paint
"But, on black cars especially, it does not give a nice deep glossy or "wet look" shine. It leaves more of a streaky oily finish."

"Works equally as well as other cheaper brands and WILL NOT remove swirl marks on dark cars just like other cheaper brands."

i did read one review in which the person said it works great-

"It really pops the shine out on my black Toyota Tundra. The key is to apply it properly. Use it very sparingly, a little bit goes a long way (the cost may seem steep, but you get a lot of use out of one bottle). Don't apply to a hot surface, it will dry too fast and streak. Make sure it is totally dry before wiping off (apply on a low humidity day if possible), I usually do the whole vehicle and then go back and wipe it off. Once you understand how to apply it, it goes on and wipes off very easily.Remember that this product is only a wax, not a cleaner wax like most people use. Therefore, if you have scratches/swirl marks etc. you should use a polish on your vehicle before you apply the NXT, as it will not remove blemishes. However, it does seem to cover them up a bit.

and while we are on the topic of black cars and wax-
if you have a black forte- other than the above mentioned wax-
what do you use?

i'd still love to know what was used on the black on in picture- IMG 1636 & C1K7197 (this car looks so slick- you gotta wonder how they got the 2.4 to stick to the fender)

i've picked up a Turtle wax box kit called the "black box" - contains pre-wax conditioner, deep black carnuba wax, and conditioner, plus the applicators and spray bottles- but havent been able to give this a try since we are in storm season here in fla- and i dont have a garage- so even if its not raining- the sun is blazing and at night- well- the humidity so high-it might as well be raining.
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I've used the black box for my car the first time I waxed it I bought that. I can't say I was too impressed with it, the wax works ok and its nice since the wax is black and has a dye in it can't say I found the dye to help cover scratchs too well but it seems to help cover swirl marks some.
*ps, dont get the wax on your hands lol*

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I've used the black box for my car the first time I waxed it I bought that. I can't say I was too impressed with it, the wax works ok and its nice since the wax is black and has a dye in it can't say I found the dye to help cover scratchs too well but it seems to help cover swirl marks some.
*ps, dont get the wax on your hands lol*

I'm still searching for something I like more
crap.
(and let me guess- somehow or another - its gonna fk the rubber trim around the windows)
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Look at the 2010 Scion tC in that thread, I used the same wax I used on my red Koup on my buddy's tC. It looked just as good as my red Koup. I could see my own reflection in the tC and it's a pretty dark color. I never had an issue using the wax with the rubber trim around the windows, it's a relatively easy wax to buff off.

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Hey Tampajoey,

You commented on the GTAFK thread...that was my black forte
It is quite the challege to keep it clean and shinny. I used :

Armour All - wash and wax to wash my car. It does gives the car a nice shinny wet look. But, I wash the car quite often....
The problem area is the hood. I havent yet solved that problem...and I dont think I will

I wax with just normal Turtle Wax. I try not to wax too often...about every 2 months.

Just to add....in regards to that particular pic, it was taken by D113 super wicked DSLR camera. Photography these days.....

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crap.
(and let me guess- somehow or another - its gonna fk the rubber trim around the windows)
not that I've noticed
Idk I just try to avoid waxing that stuff just in case.

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I don't have a black car but I have a Bronze Metallic which is a fairly dark color and I use Meg's NXT.

I agree the key to Meg's products is do it right. At first when I got my car I washed with Meg's Crystal Car wash. This is the only car wash I've used that lubricates well and some how is able to soften tree sap and help melt away road tar. I followed with Meg's clay Kit which also uses Meg's Cleaner Wax. Wash the car again with crystal wash to get rid of any dirt pulled up from the claying and clay residue.

At this point I used the NXT. 2 Coats, use small amounts per coat). At the show and shine I was telling one of the Soul owners how NXT works so well bird poop doesn't stick. I literally saw bird poop hit and slide off my car and the tiny residue that was left was washed off in the next rainstorm.

The NXT gave such a smooth surface lasting 2 weeks with intermittent showers. All I had to do to keep the car spot free was to give it a quick shot from the hose to make it sheet. After this the water still beads but you can tell it's smooth anymore.

I would say if you want to use NXT you should get Meg's cleaner wax to get the best possible shine and durability. You need a clean surface for good wax adhesion. If you have a black car you should get Meg's Swirl remover to (hopefully) spot treat. Remember that swirls is fine damage to your clear coat. To remove them you're either leveling your clear coat or filling it. A good wax job will help fill the clear coat and create a protective surface for tiny paint damage to occur.

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The only real way to show you how it looks is to have Rockawe wax my car next time we meet up.... HAHAHAHAHAHA and then I'll post a picture and you can tell me what you think. Good idea??? SAY YES PLEASE!

Once you drive it in black you never go back.....
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use micro fiber cloths when waxing. huge fucking difference
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OK, for any paint color, you must purchase the best you can get your hands on.

What is the best?

100% carnauba. period.

not 99%.

Don't wax with anything less. And if you don't know how to wax properly take it to a professional. But only a professional that uses 100% Carnauba wax.

If you find a real professional that uses 100% carnauba, use him. Not someone that says they can get 100% Carnauba wax, only someone that already uses it.

If you are trying to get rid of swirl marks, use a cleaner wax. then a regular wax.

And don't forget to buff. When you wax, use the "Wax on, Wax off method" by this I mean the direction of your hand pushing against the wax. You want your thick palm side of your hand to push against the surface of the vehicle. You want nice even pressure. Treat your car like its a CD surface. Be careful what you use to wash it. And you will have a long lasting shine.

Also, just like painting, there is prep work to be done before waxing. Wax is a protector. Would you spray armor all on dirty tires? nope.
Wash with a good auto soap, never use dish soap, and use a good microfiber to clean with.
If you have tar, sap or bug residue, then take care of this first before you wash. Use denatured alcohol on a microfiber and it will clean this up nicely without any damage to the paint trim or even windows and plastics.
After wash, clay your car with a good quality Clay product.
Then Wax and buff.
Last, optional, polish.
Do this every 6 months.

And in between, use a detailer spray.

Tip for windows: Use soaked #0000 Steel Wool to clean a wet window in the middle of your wash, this will remove any water spots. No scratches or microscratches as long as you keep it wet. But do not use on paint or plastic.

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OK, for any paint color, you must purchase the best you can get your hands on.

What is the best?

100% carnauba. period.

not 99%.

Don't wax with anything less. And if you don't know how to wax properly take it to a professional. But only a professional that uses 100% Carnauba wax.

If you find a real professional that uses 100% carnauba, use him. Not someone that says they can get 100% Carnauba wax, only someone that already uses it.

If you are trying to get rid of swirl marks, use a cleaner wax. then a regular wax.

And don't forget to buff. When you wax, use the "Wax on, Wax off method" by this I mean the direction of your hand pushing against the wax. You want your thick palm side of your hand to push against the surface of the vehicle. You want nice even pressure. Treat your car like its a CD surface. Be careful what you use to wash it. And you will have a long lasting shine.

Also, just like painting, there is prep work to be done before waxing. Wax is a protector. Would you spray armor all on dirty tires? nope.
Wash with a good auto soap, never use dish soap, and use a good microfiber to clean with.
If you have tar, sap or bug residue, then take care of this first before you wash. Use denatured alcohol on a microfiber and it will clean this up nicely without any damage to the paint trim or even windows and plastics.
After wash, clay your car with a good quality Clay product.
Then Wax and buff.
Last, optional, polish.
Do this every 6 months.

And in between, use a detailer spray.

Tip for windows: Use soaked #0000 Steel Wool to clean a wet window in the middle of your wash, this will remove any water spots. No scratches or microscratches as long as you keep it wet. But do not use on paint or plastic.
Well put. I disagree with the detail spray though....i find it's just a dust magnet after a day and then you have to do it again. I usually wash my car about once a week or 2 weeks and they hold up well. I wax in the fall around late october, then if i can sometime in february (road salt isn't nice to cars), then again when the spring hits, and maybe once in the summer.

Some people say that's over-doing it but here in Nova Scotia you're always battling the elements. In the summer there are mosquitos and bugs galore if you take old highways (the ones that are fun to drive on), not to mention road construction everywhere and tar getting on your car. In the winter there's snow, road salt and sand and then in the spring and fall there's just mud everywhere.
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