2019 Forte oil burn

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rustiguun

Discussion Starter · Jan 11, 2020

My Forte will burn just under a qrt of oil every 5k. I have owned at least 15 new cars from various makers and never have had this issue with any new car. I have taken my Forte into my dealer 3 times for this issue. They just quote me what Kia HQ says as the burn spec. I am so done with this Forte. Seems like I drew the lucky straw and got the 1 in 10,000 Fortes that burns oil.
Any thoughts?

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NovaResource

· #2 · Jan 11, 2020 (Edited)

All cars burn oil. ALL CARS. Some more than others.

How old is the car? How many miles? Are you the original owner? Where do you live (a very hot climate)? What weight oil are you using? Do you drive a lot of highway or city miles?

In all seriousness, 1qt every 5K really isn't that bad.

Legomaniac

· #3 · Jan 12, 2020

I've never owned a car that didn't lose a quart of oil between changes. They would all burn some oil and/or blow it through the pcv valve.

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Acura_Kal

· #4 · Jan 13, 2020

My '03 Tiburon V6 and current 2010 Koup SX don't burn ANY oil in 5k miles. I check every other week. My mother's 2013 Sportage 2.4L uses about 1 quart per 7k miles. My Acuras used about 1 quart a week

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NovaResource

· #5 · Jan 14, 2020

Again, all cars burn oil. Now, it may be very little oil, so little that you don't notice, but all cars burn oil. Oil gets past the rings and burns Also, that's what the PCV system does. It takes oil vapor and routes it into the intake to be burned.

ForteDave#1

· #6 · Jan 17, 2020

I bought a new 2019 FE 1 year ago, don't drive much, just did the 1st oil change w/3,000 miles. I agree that all engines will consume some oil, but this FE didn't use enough during this period for it to show on the dipstick. Some say modern cars burn more oil due to weaker piston rings, in place to lower friction & thereby increase efficiency. I don't buy that, myself. Search online & you'll see the same discussions across numerous brands, like this Subaru thread Used Subarus– Buy This One, Not That One If it were NORMAL for any given make/model to do something, they would ALL do it, that's the definition of NORMAL. Which they don't. Piston rings are not the only source; valve guides are another major potential source. I've always run full synthetic oils; used this one in my oil change https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-GTX-MAGNATEC-5W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-QT/44580673

The dealer is just trying to weasel out of their responsibility to do warranty repairs, which they HATE. Had a similar experience with mine in August over fuel odors stinking up the garage, something I'd never experienced with any other car I've parked there. "We weren't able to reproduce the problem," was the weasel move they used on that one. Shocking, I know...

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Indy

· #7 · Feb 17, 2020

Yep, every manufacturer has a burn rate for their engines. My bmw was about 1qt per 5 or 7, I don't remember which. But there's a reason that engines have dipsticks. As long as the amount is within the builders specs, the engine is working correctly.

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Carman

· #8 · 10 mo ago

I bought a new 2019 forte and at 44000 miles it was burning 1.5 quarts in between oil changes I didn’t bother with Kia warranty I got a online quote from Carmax I took that to my local carmax and they honored it. They paid off the remaining balance and I walked away with check for 9 grand. Just change the oil before you bring it to carmax.

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noturbonoproblem

· #9 · 10 mo ago

Carman said:
I bought a new 2019 forte and at 44000 miles it was burning 1.5 quarts in between oil changes I didn’t bother with Kia warranty I got a online quote from Carmax I took that to my local carmax and they honored it. They paid off the remaining balance and I walked away with check for 9 grand. Just change the oil before you bring it to carmax.

There’s so much wrong here.

It shouldn’t have been burning any oil at that mileage. I have a ‘21 FE with over 30k on it and absolutely rip it everywhere, and it doesn’t burn any oil (at least not enough to notice between changes)
Kia warranty likely would have covered it, and
If you didn’t get at least 13 grand for that car in todays market you got scammed big time

Carman

· #10 · 10 mo ago

noturbonoproblem said:
There’s so much wrong here.

It shouldn’t have been burning any oil at that mileage. I have a ‘21 FE with over 30k on it and absolutely rip it everywhere, and it doesn’t burn any oil (at least not enough to notice between changes)

Kia warranty likely would have covered it, and

If you didn’t get at least 13 grand for that car in todays market you got scammed big time

the offer was for 18 grand and they gave me the difference of what i owed. i had a 6 speed fe as well and drove it hard as well
its happening to other fortes of this generation just google the issue. the first year i had the car i was willing to pay 2 grand to get out of the loan because it was a poorly engineered car and drove as such. the only reason i bought it in the first place was because kia was pretty much giving them away at the time and i was in and out of the dealership in a hour with zero down the only people getting scammed are the people who cant afford a better car. the fact that i got rid of that POS and walked away with 9 grand was satisfying to me. time is money and i dont have time to deal with kia and their warranty procedure. im sure they would have gave me a new engine i mean have you seen the back of a kia dealership? there are dead motors pilling up in the back lol. kia is notorious for engine failure. but i will say that the car looked great especially on coilovers dropped on 18's got many compliments but at the end of the day it was a bad investment relatively speaking. if you love the car that much keep it. i love my 2006 corvette but i dont want to commute to work in that beast so i took the money from the forte and bought a 05 rsx type s with 90k miles and im satisfied with the mpg as well as HP and reliability. All is well that ends well.

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Steve g

· #11 · 10 mo ago

Timewarp zombie thread alert !!! Haha...
Everyone I have come across that has constant problems with their cars is self inflicted in most cases... I have owned heavily modified cars and cars known to be unreliable and rarely had issues.. cars I regret owning .. 2003 pathfinder my wife bought new... 1979 tr7 I bought with 44k original miles (later found out that’s EXTREMELY high mileage for a tr7) . that’s about it.

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Destonomos

· #12 · 10 mo ago

on a side note I had no oil issues as well in a 2.0L. Bought new and i'm at 58k miles. I do over maintain though and my last oil analysis showed over a 50% reduced wear over what they normally see for these engine in my oil.

sphipps026

· #13 · 4 mo ago

Carman said:
I bought a new 2019 forte and at 44000 miles it was burning 1.5 quarts in between oil changes I didn’t bother with Kia warranty I got a online quote from Carmax I took that to my local carmax and they honored it. They paid off the remaining balance and I walked away with check for 9 grand. Just change the oil before you bring it to carmax.

@Carman That's how you do it!! This was the 2.0l Atkinson 147hp engine??

sphipps026

· #14 · 4 mo ago

is everyone using 5w-20 oil as per the cap and book for a Atkinson NU 2.0l MPI or anyone moved to 5w-30 and if so how did it do?? Thanks

noturbonoproblem

· #15 · 4 mo ago

sphipps026 said:
is everyone using 5w-20 oil as per the cap and book for a Atkinson NU 2.0l MPI or anyone moved to 5w-30 and if so how did it do?? Thanks

Why the desire to move to 5-30?

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sphipps026

· #16 · 4 mo ago

noturbonoproblem said:
Why the desire to move to 5-30?

Not a major desire. I've seen some on the 2.4l Theta went to 5w-30 and reduced oil consumption. Was curious if anyone had gone 5w-30 and if so, how it was doing in this engine. My son has this one.

Hamster-GT

· #17 · 4 mo ago

Have you change the PCV valve?

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ForteGT2

· #18 · 4 mo ago

Engines age and they start using/burning oil. If you want to keep them a long time you need to replace the parts that NORMALLY wear.

I bought a Ford when I was a teenager and kept it for 27 years. Roughly every 10 years I had to replace the valve seals as they would become hard and crack - letting oil run down the valve stem and burn in the combustion chamber. The symptom of this was oil smoke out the exhaust when accelerating.

In addition, at 200K miles I overhauled the engine and replaced the bearings and piston rings. The piston rings were worn and the large ring gap allowed both oil into the combustion chamber AND allowed blow-by - which increased the amount of oil into the PCV system and oil blowing out the valve cover breather.

Car engines do not last forever - the more, and harder, you drive them the faster they wear. But TIME AND HEAT is also the enemy - rubber parts have a shelf and service life and will become brittle. The parts I was buying for my Ford were NEW but old and would not last very long. One of the reasons I got rid of my Ford.

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Superclean

· #19 · 3 mo ago

I have a 2023 Forte EX+ (Canada) ordered and on the boat from Korea. I have been watching a lot of reviews from pros and from regular joes. One middle-aged guy bought his in Florida with only 15 miles on it. He then drove it over 400 miles at 84 mph. That is definitely not the factory recommended break-in process. If he is on here complaining his car burns oil I’m not surprised. I think most of the issues that arise today are from following the dealer recommended service intervals on oil and other maintenance items. I am going to change my IVT fluid waaay before it’s recommended to see what kind of bits come off that metal drive chain. I’m sure that will add life to the IVT.

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Destonomos

· #20 · 3 mo ago

Superclean said:
I have a 2023 Forte EX+ (Canada) ordered and on the boat from Korea. I have been watching a lot of reviews from pros and from regular joes. One middle-aged guy bought his in Florida with only 15 miles on it. He then drove it over 400 miles at 84 mph. That is definitely not the factory recommended break-in process. If he is on here complaining his car burns oil I’m not surprised. I think most of the issues that arise today are from following the dealer recommended service intervals on oil and other maintenance items. I am going to change my IVT fluid waaay before it’s recommended to see what kind of bits come off that metal drive chain. I’m sure that will add life to the IVT.

I have a 2020 2.0L and I did the same. I did my trans at 50k and I'm doing it again at 80k and every 30 thereafter. I've always done my oil changes every 3k-4k on full synthetic. I'm at 68k now and my last Blackstone reported engine wearing half as much as other's forte's.

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