If you can keep this topic under control without all hell breaking loose you are a god.
2019+ Forte Tunes and Piggybacks
I would like to see how much QUALITY info we can put in this thread about tunes and piggybacks for this platform. We don't need to bash one vs the other but simply try to find as much FACTUAL info to help people decide what is best for them. It would be great if the vendors wanted to take part as well but I know most don't like to put themselves into that atmosphere. We could probably start by listing the current tunes and piggybacks that are currently available. Here is a list of the top Forte GT users on Dragy and the info they have listed. Everything is rounded to tenths since hundredths don't really matter. Most of the cars listed have intake and exhaust of some type that I did not list. In reality those things only make a tenth or two of difference but help regardless.
| 60ft | 1/4 mile | MPH | 1/8 MILE | MPH | |||
| K3GT2 NSPEC | 2.2 | 12.9 | 110 | 8.4 | 88 | DCT | N75, WMI, WAGNER, E30, 245 R COMPOUND |
| BRENTHON_GT | 2.2 | 13.2 | 108 | 8.6 | 86 | DCT | TORK, WMI, WAGNER, 92 OCT, CONTINENTAL ECS, DAMAGED THE ENGINE |
| BOOSTEDK3 | 2.2 | 13.5 | 103 | 8.8 | 83 | DCT | N75, E30 |
| COLINH | 2.3 | 13.5 | 105 | 8.9 | 84 | DCT | JB4 MAP5, 100+ OCT, GUTTED INTERIOR |
| OLSZEWSKI | 2.4 | 13.6 | 106 | 8.9 | 85 | DCT | N75, 93 OCT, WAGNER |
| ANTHONY T | 2.2 | 13.8 | 102 | 8.9 | 80 | 6SPD | JB4, 100+ OCTANE, HOOSIERS |
| ENDLESS_HASTE | 2.4 | 13.9 | 102 | 9.1 | 82 | 6SPD | TORK, TORK INTER, 92 OCT, 225 PS4 |
| TORKME | 2.4 | 14.2 | 100 | 9.3 | 80 | DCT | TORK |
| PEPONSOTE | 2.5 | 14.2 | 99 | 9.3 | 81 | DCT | JB4? |
| SXTH | 2.5 | 14.2 | 106 | 9.5 | 83 | DCT | SXTH STAGE 3, INTER, |
| EASTCOASTGT | 2.5 | 14.3 | 100 | 9.4 | 80 | DCT | RACECHIP, 93 OCT |
| 2023BD | 2.3 | 14.4 | 100 | 9.4 | 79 | 6SPD | RACECHIP, 93 OCT, AFE, MIDPIPE |
| 22GT2 | 2.4 | 14.4 | 98 | 9.4 | 78 | DCT | RACECHIP, 93 OCT, AFE, MIDPIPE, WAGNER |
| FREDJOHNSON INC | 2.5 | 14.5 | 99 | 9.5 | 79 | 6SPD | REV6 SXTH, 93 OCT |
| SIMBAAA314 | 2.4 | 14.6 | 95 | 9.5 | 76 | DCT | STOCK, 89 OCT |
| GT_TURBO_K3 | 2.5 | 14.6 | 100 | 9.6 | 78 | 6SPD | TORK, 92 OCT |
| BRIAN | 2.5 | 14.9 | 96 | 9.7 | 76 | DCT | STOCK, CATBACK |
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Hopefully we can find some info from people who actually have some of these tunes and piggybacks
@2023BD it appears you are the human DCT. impressive
I sure tried, getting that 60ft time below 2.5 sec was not easy. I wonder what Anthony T has for tires to get a 2.2 60ft
Here's my Draggy results so far.
60ft 1/4 mile MPH 1/8 mile MPH
2.54 14.55 97.78 9.56 78.47
Mods listed below. I am in the process of ordering the ECU and TCU tunes from N75 so we'll see the difference...
60ft 1/4 mile MPH 1/8 mile MPH
2.54 14.55 97.78 9.56 78.47
Mods listed below. I am in the process of ordering the ECU and TCU tunes from N75 so we'll see the difference...
What method are you planning to use for the N75 tune? EK1 light?Here's my Draggy results so far.
60ft 1/4 mile MPH 1/8 mile MPH
2.54 14.55 97.78 9.56 78.47
Mods listed below. I am in the process of ordering the ECU and TCU tunes from N75 so we'll see the difference...
We're going to do a remote tune on the ECU. I'll have to send the TCU to Canada to have it done but I bought a spare so it won't be down while I wait.What method are you planning to use for the N75 tune? EK1 light?
I will be interesting to see the difference in the tune vs stock and Racechip. I will add your Draggy times to the list up top as well.We're going to do a remote tune on the ECU. I'll have to send the TCU to Canada to have it done but I bought a spare so it won't be down while I wait.
I emailed Daniel at N75 a couple times to ask what he felt the most comfortable selling to Forte GT owners for a tune and his rough guess at gains over the Racechip. His response was simply "ECU Tune". I also asked if he recommended the EK1 Lite with 4 tunes for $1251 and would that also allow the user to revert back to stock when needed. He did not give me any answer. I was hoping for more than a two word answer but I guess that is all I can get.
So I really have no info to offer for N75 tunes until someone tries it and gives us feedback here. They seem to have the most potential but I would love to hear from someone who actually has it and has been using it for a few months.
So I really have no info to offer for N75 tunes until someone tries it and gives us feedback here. They seem to have the most potential but I would love to hear from someone who actually has it and has been using it for a few months.
Are there any users here that have a JB4 that can also give feedback on the experience with it. It seems if your just running regular fuel the Jb4 offers the same power as Racechip but with so little feedback from people it is hard to say.
I know exactly what you mean. But I try to see it from his point of view. 95% or better of the emails he gets are a waste of his time so unfortunately the small 5% that actually want to do business get shunned off along with everyone else. Majority of forte owners are window shoppers to him. I think n75 is primarily focusing on the N models at this point anyway.I emailed Daniel at N75 a couple times to ask what he felt the most comfortable selling to Forte GT owners for a tune and his rough guess at gains over the Racechip. His response was simply "ECU Tune". I also asked if he recommended the EK1 Lite with 4 tunes for $1251 and would that also allow the user to revert back to stock when needed. He did not give me any answer. I was hoping for more than a two word answer but I guess that is all I can get.
So I really have no info to offer for N75 tunes until someone tries it and gives us feedback here. They seem to have the most potential but I would love to hear from someone who actually has it and has been using it for a few months.
Data posted here is off, incorrect, or rounded. The data on the far right for description of mods/fuel is also incorrect(most dont update that). Reason I know this is because, ive talked to them, some on a daily/weekly basis, and i know thier set up on they got these times. My time is a old base N75 tune on 93 octane, non full bolt ons, and stock Khumo tires. My draggy app account got jacked and I haven't used it in long time with my current set up. I plan to buy the new dragy, unfortunately might have to make a new account which will look wierd on the leader boards. Any questions feel free to ask or PM me. DCT here is shown to be out performing manuals. I know plenty of manual tuned cars that don't post thier dragy times because they are not better than the DCT. Also anyone can get the dragy app to look at these numbers if they would like to.I would like to see how much QUALITY info we can put in this thread about tunes and piggybacks for this platform. We don't need to bash one vs the other but simply try to find as much FACTUAL info to help people decide what is best for them. It would be great if the vendors wanted to take part as well but I know most don't like to put themselves into that atmosphere. We could probably start by listing the current tunes and piggybacks that are currently available. Here is a list of the top Forte GT users on Dragy and the info they have listed.
60ft 1/4 mile MPH 1/8 MILE MPH K3GT2 NSPEC 2.2 12.9 110 8.4 88 DCT N75, WMI, WAGNER, E30, 245 R COMPOUND BRENTHON_GT 2.2 13.2 108 8.7 85 DCT TORK, WMI, WAGNER, 92 OCT, CONTINENTAL ECS BOOSTEDK3 2.2 13.5 103 8.8 83 DCT N75, E30 COLINH 2.3 13.5 105 8.9 84 DCT JB4 MAP5, E30 OLSZEWSKI 2.4 13.7 106 9 85 DCT N75, WAGNER ENDLESS_HASTE 2.4 13.9 102 9.1 82 6SPD TORK, TORK INTER, 92 OCT, 225 PS4 ANTHONY T 2.2 13.8 102 8.9 80 6SPD JB4, E30 TORKME 2.4 14.2 100 9.3 80 DCT TORK PEPONSOTE 2.5 14.2 99 9.3 81 DCT JB4? SXTH 2.5 14.2 106 9.5 83 DCT SXTH STAGE 3, INTER, EASTCOASTGT 2.5 14.3 100 9.4 80 DCT RACECHIP, 93 OCT 2023BD 2.3 14.4 100 9.4 79 6SPD RACECHIP, 93 OCT FREDJOHNSON INC 2.5 14.5 99 9.5 79 6SPD REV6 SXTH, 93 OCT GT_TURBO_K3 2.5 14.6 100 9.6 78 6SPD TORK, 92 OCT
He is running different front wheels with slicks. Hoosers I believe is the tire brand. He is also using sunoco 100+ octane fuel.I sure tried, getting that 60ft time below 2.5 sec was not easy. I wonder what Anthony T has for tires to get a 2.2 60ft
I've done, Racechip, JB4, reading/going over JB4 logs and set up custom map6 tuning, JB4 wmi installations talk to Terry Burger often, and now on N75 tune, still have my JB4 for data logging and JB4 meth injection control. Im on a daily/weekly basis with Daniel Cisalowicz. N75 is still heavy on 1.6T tuning and doing great with N models. What would you like to know?I emailed Daniel at N75 a couple times to ask what he felt the most comfortable selling to Forte GT owners for a tune and his rough guess at gains over the Racechip. His response was simply "ECU Tune". I also asked if he recommended the EK1 Lite with 4 tunes for $1251 and would that also allow the user to revert back to stock when needed. He did not give me any answer. I was hoping for more than a two word answer but I guess that is all I can get.
So I really have no info to offer for N75 tunes until someone tries it and gives us feedback here. They seem to have the most potential but I would love to hear from someone who actually has it and has been using it for a few months.
I knew there must be a reason he could do a 2.2s 60ftHe is running different front wheels with slicks. Hoosers I believe is the tire brand.
The Racechip does great until 5200rpm and then looses steam. Does JB4 on pump gas have the same dyno graphs showing this same effect or is the JB4 able to keep the higher gains up to 6500rpm. I am almost positive the N75 tunes tweak things to keep power building until 6500rpm which is reflective in the high trap speeds around 103-106.What would you like to know?
And I never hear anything about Tork but they seem to have a tune that is working pretty good as well.
He hasn't done much with FGT in awhile. My opinion he is maxing out on the JB4 set up with JB4 water methanol injection with stock bolt ons and slicks. COLINH times on JB4, took out most of his interior and ran sunoco 100+ octane to get his times.I knew there must be a reason he could do a 2.2s 60ft
JB4 with its more advanced on board computer board, data it reads and safeties will give power to red line on pre given maps. You also can fine tune your boost per RPM under map6 advanced options. ECU tuning does more changes to the ECU maps to give you better performance than what a JB4 can do. Tork tune that is posted on #2 dragy spot was a one time type tune with TCU tune which ended up causing engine damage due to changing dwell times map and paired with MSD coils. ENDLESS_HASTE Tork tune is a detuned stable tune. TORK has already mentioned the dwell time map change was the issue of engine damage with two Forte GTs. ENDLESS_HASTE is the 3rd Tork tuned FGT which is with a stable tune. Note: dwell time map change was paired using MSD coil packs. Not bashing on Tork just providing data with facts.The Racechip does great until 5200rpm and then looses steam. Does JB4 on pump gas have the same dyno graphs showing this same effect or is the JB4 able to keep the higher gains up to 6500rpm. I am almost positive the N75 tunes tweak things to keep power building until 6500rpm which is reflective in the high trap speeds around 103-106.
And I never hear anything about Tork but they seem to have a tune that is working pretty good as well.
I changed some info on the first post and added a couple more times.
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