The Kia has a snorkel too picking it up from the front of the car.Where does the OEM 2019+ Forte airbox pull its air from?
With all the aftermarket interest in CAI over the last decade or so, a lot of OEM have put snorkels from the airbox through the fender or around in front of the radiator for example for a factory CAI functionality.
That's true the only benefit is more air flow no restrictions and this also will vary from car to anotherMost factory intakes are cold air already, and most cold air aftermarkets are actually warm air. It's hilarious. There's better ways to waste money imo
I think you would have to qualify it as "possibly" more air flow. And in a stock car, especially one with a small na motor, it doesn't matter. A modern car rolls off the line with an intake that flows more than the engine is physically possibly capable of using. And the biggest restriction remains, the throttle body itself. Remove the intake entirely and you still won't flow and more air than the TB allowed before.That's true the only benefit is more air flow no restrictions and this also will vary from car to another
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You are 100% correctI think you would have to qualify it as "possibly" more air flow. And in a stock car, especially one with a small na motor, it doesn't matter. A modern car rolls off the line with an intake that flows more than the engine is physically possibly capable of using. And the biggest restriction remains, the throttle body itself. Remove the intake entirely and you still won't flow and more air than the TB allowed before.
If I have a built motor that pulls more air than the stock can provide, different story.
But we're talking fi here. So (stock) we take outside air that is as dense and cool as possible which gives the greatest energy load possible. Compress it, heat it, which lowers it's density and it's energy possibility. Then we feed it through an intercooler to cool it and make it more dense, and then force feed it to the engine where the computer factors in density and decided how much fuel to inject, and voila, more hp than na.
But an intercooler can only do so much. The hotter the air you feed it, the hotter the air coming out of it. The hotter the air they the lower the density, which lowers the amount of fuel being injected, which lowers your possible hp and mpg.
So any intake that pulls from a heated air source like the engine bay is at best probably negating any possible improvements for restrictions etc being removed.
I've done a few Cai over the years, mainly for looks and I didn't mind throwing away a few hundred at the time. I learned early on how much if a waste most bolt on parts are on a modern engine. And I lived where it's omg cold much of the year and pulling in heated air can be a good thing sometimes. I'm on my 2nd turbo car since I moved to Florida, no way in heck am I going to pull air from under the hood. That works be utter madness no matter how nifty the parts look.
I traded in a bmw 335i, twin turbo, about 400hp at the wheels. All the 'work' to it was at the computer level. It was fun, could hit triple digits pretty easy before I ran out of on ramp.I agree completely, and is why I asked the leading question above about whether the Forte already has an OEM "cold air" intake...
Don't get me wrong though, I have and still do some things for fun and aesthetics that in reality likely offer no functional benefit or maybe are even mildly detrimental. But that's OK as long as one understands.
In the case of most modern cars, I doubt there is a need to "add" CAI, but in some cases it may be true that a well designed aftermarket CAI solution could be less restrictive in the context of other modifications. But testing and tuning would have to bear that out, and that takes time and effort.
But OTOH, it's always a bit questionable if an assortment of random parts designed independently by single persons or small tuner shops are going to work well together and outperform something designed by a team of engineers spending years and millions of $, except perhaps for a very narrowly defined performance goal.
As always YMMV, and all that being said... I still added a "cool looking" cone filter "CAI" to my XJR some years ago, when I'm sure it is actually ingesting more warm air than the OEM solution ... for fun
In my case, I bought the Forte as a commuter for my 100 mile/day drive to work, for reliability, warranty, and fuel economy. So I won't be adding anything that sacrifices any of those characteristics. But that isn't everyone's goal of course, and it will be interesting over time to see what other owners with different priorities discover about the potential for this series of Forte.