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2023 Forte Takes A LONNNG Time To Warm Up

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Hello, I am a newish 2023 Kia Forte Owner that I bough in October of 2022. I live in the PacNW where it doesnt really get very cold, but am finding the Kia takes a long time to warm up and get heat out of the defroster...something like 10-15 min with the temp anywhere from 25-40. Because it is so wet here most of the time I have to sit forever to get to windows to defog/defrost. My other cars seem to get heat going within a few minutes of driving. I can take it to the dealer but they are booked out weeks so I figured I would stop by here and see if it is "normal" or if maybe something is going on.

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Yes... it takes a long time... 15 minutes for mine to fully warm up if sitting in my driveway waiting for the heater to do something.. or 5+ minutes if I just jump in and drive while freezing to death with fogged up windows..
Thank you. Wish I could get it to warm up faster somehow. I dont have a super long drive to work and when it is colder the engine isnt at the point where it is blowing heat really.

I had been reading and someone suggested if the coolant is low it will take a while to heat up. That didnt make sense, but I checked anyway. Attached is a photo of the coolant level in the expansion tank after about 10-15 if idling. I connected up my ODB reader and saw no trouble codes. After 15 min plus of idle the temp was at 140F. Seems kind of low, but who knows?

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I put my '22 into sport mode as soon as I pull out of the driveway. That seems to help it warm up faster. The Forte is definitely not a cold weather car. 😬😬
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Perhaps due to the high compression and boost these engines have, the need for a 180*F/82*C thermostat is used. Old School JDM "performance" thermostats were spec'd with these opening temps. I have used these in past project cars and it does make the car warm up a little longer
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The gauge in the cluster hits center at 140 F. My 2.0L also takes forever to warm up. My Land Rover with the (crap) 4.6 V8 also has a 180 t-stat and it gets there in a hurry. Thermostat opening temp doesn’t contribute to taking it long to warm up, it only limits the temp it warms up to
Glad someone posted this my 21 LXS fits the category takes a long time for heat to warm the cabin and I live in the south
Weird why these take so long. Glad to know its normal but bummed that it isnt something that be fixed.
Part of the reason is the efficiency of modern engines...they run so much cooler then engines of yesteryear. There is no way in heck a 50s-60s-or 70s engine could run with a plastic intake manifold, much less a plastic valve cover - like our engines have!. Also, there are a number of coolant by-passes and a water cooled oil cooler that results in it taking a little longer to reach operating temperatures.
Our dinky motors are all aluminum.. heating up too fast is a good way to shred stuff, head gaskets etc....
My GT warms up faster than our Tucson diesel does, by a fair margin - but it still takes ~10min or so in the middle of winter.
Hmm, I think our 2.0 engines warm up pretty quick! I had a Cast Iron V6 before my forte, and THAT took a long time to warm up. It would take almost 10 minutes drive at highway speeds, during cold weather, before the coolant needle was in the middle. Nothing was wrong with it, that’s just how it was. Modern engines warm up way faster when you start driving them lightly. It’s not the best for them to idle for long periods at a time, especially upon start up. It can lead to oil dilution. I start my car, what for high idle to come down to +/- 1k RPM and then I drive and just keep it under 2.5k rpm until I have reached operating temp.
I just let mine warm up 20-30 seconds then drive it gently for a few miles. It warms up in about 5 minutes or so. I had a 97' Ford Ranger years ago with a 4.0 liter cast iron block and that took forever to warm up. I also had a '09 Nissan Murano before the Forte and it warmed up similar time to the Forte. A load on the engine will speed up the warm up time.
Thanks all. Lots of interesting info. One of the reasons why I need to let mine warm up quite often before driving the interior windows always seem fogged up. Sometimes it is a visual buildup of drops on the inside. There are no leaks that I can find and I use the AC setting and Defrost but it doesnt seem to help. If I drive my short drive to work it is worse. If I take it for a longer drive it is not an issue.

Interestingly I NEVER have this fogging moisture issue with my wife's Mini or my Ram 1500.
Hmmm
Our '16 with 1.8 takes only a few minutes to get heat 🙂 even when it starts at the 40s dF.
Normal operating temp is 191 dF, per Scangauge.
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Keep in mind that the middle of the gauge is 140 F and operating temp is 200 F. It takes like 5 minutes after the gauge hits the middle ( which itself takes forever under like 55 F ambient) to get fully up to temp for mine. Super annoying when I need to defrost the windows and have to wait forever to get heat
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Thanks all. Lots of interesting info. One of the reasons why I need to let mine warm up quite often before driving the interior windows always seem fogged up. Sometimes it is a visual buildup of drops on the inside. There are no leaks that I can find and I use the AC setting and Defrost but it doesnt seem to help. If I drive my short drive to work it is worse. If I take it for a longer drive it is not an issue.

Interestingly I NEVER have this fogging moisture issue with my wife's Mini or my Ram 1500.
Are you sure the AC drain tube is not plugged?
Are you sure the AC drain tube is not plugged?
No, I am not. Being so new it would have to be blocked from the factory probably. Where would I look for that?
No, I am not. Being so new it would have to be blocked from the factory probably. Where would I look for that?
Comes down from the AC, passenger side lower part of firewall. When AC is on you should see water dripping from it. I don't have a picture handy...looking for one.

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Thank you. I will check that out. Will it drop water even if the weather is colder?
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