I just bought my Titanium Kia Forte Koup EX automatic earlier this morning and I love it. I bought the Consumer Reports buying guide specifically for the Forte Koup, in one part of it, it shows their bottom line buying price based on rebates, incentives, and dealer holdbacks. We just told the dealers we had the report and they gave us a price based on what they thought Consumer Reports priced it at. I currently don't have the list on me, but I believe their bottom line buying price was around 16495, maybe even a little higher, ill get the real number later when I have the papers with me. After we told them we had the CR guide, they told us an offer of 16150 on a Koup EX Titanium Automatic with a sunroof and cargo net. Basically just wondering if any of you tried using this guide to get lower offers from dealerships. It worked great for me.