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ok so i found this site and just wanted to get your opinion you guys know i love to just try things first lol check this out give me your 2 cents OBD2 ECU Remap Flash TUNING TOOL EOBD-II Galletto 1260 (SZC653) - US$ 38.89
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Handle it like a bomb and dispose of it very carefully. And let it no where near your ECU. $38.99, LMAO!
x2 Reputable tuning suites cost well over $500. I paid $650 for the HP Tuners suite that used to tune my GM trucks. Sold it and a wideband O2 sensor for $800 3 years after I bought it.
If you go this route, I would definately get a wideband O2 sensor. The stock narrow bands just can't read the AFR ranges that you need for proper tuning.
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my advice is... do it in the dealership parking lot. That way you dont have too far to push it.
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naw il just roll it down a hill
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Piece of crap ! The only person i know with reflash capabilties in North America for the Hyundai/Kia ecu is TC at NGM . I'm not sure if he is doing anything yet for the Forte .
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with all do respect fuck next gen motor. i called them the guy had the nerve to laugh after i ask him would he be doing ecu mod for the kia forte in the future. then said there's no market there. i hanged up in his face wtf
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That would be 'all due respect' . That is unfortunate , i have a great deal of respect for the work NGM has done for the Tiburon community . I would say i strongly disagree with his opinion that there is no market or won't be for the Forte . I guess time will tell if the economy ever recovers enough that people have disposable income to play with their toys .
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hmm just looked and they dont have a plug and play for the forte... it costs 495.00 for one for the TC 2.4L (which is was the closet thing i could find to our car real fast) And I bet that doesnt cover the instaler to program it... mind if I ask how much it cost you? I would be interested in this if it was a little cheaper. I have said before based on plug reading and what I see on the exhaust ther car runs rich from the factory. Also do you have estimated power gains. Not trying to be negative would just like to be more informed than "worked wonders" Thanks!
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The Unichip is a piggyback tuner , they come pretuned for specific applications or may be custom tuned at authorized dealers . Alpine Developments use the Unichip for their Hyundai/Kia kits .
http://www.alpine-developments.com/products.htm
There are other piggybacks such as the Mafterburner , Apexie Neo & Apexie SAFC or AEM FIC . They all either splice into the oem harness or use a custom plug/play harness . I don't think any of these offer a custom harness specific to Hyundai/Kia . These units can be tuned by the user with a laptop or a supplied display/keypad if you have wideband o2 display/logging capability or they can be installed and tuned at a chassis dyno shop .
http://www.alpine-developments.com/products.htm
There are other piggybacks such as the Mafterburner , Apexie Neo & Apexie SAFC or AEM FIC . They all either splice into the oem harness or use a custom plug/play harness . I don't think any of these offer a custom harness specific to Hyundai/Kia . These units can be tuned by the user with a laptop or a supplied display/keypad if you have wideband o2 display/logging capability or they can be installed and tuned at a chassis dyno shop .
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what does it do?is it for forte 1.6 l compatible?
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ok so look at this link explain this to me in lame terms im lost it also states (no obd 2) Apexi-USA - Power FC "sitting down with a notebook and pencil"
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or even this sounds interesting Apexi-USA - AFC-neo ecu programming????
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Ok , in lay-mans terms the Apexi Power FC is a stand-alone engine management system meant to totaly replace the oem ecu . Very much like the Hydra Nemesis you lose all OBD2 (on board diagnostic , generation 2) function . They are meant for a pure racecar , with no need to worry about passing emissions inspections or voiding a warranty
http://ngmhouseofpower.com/product_info.php?cPath=46&products_id=204
A piggyback tuner however only intercepts selected signals to override the oem ecu which otherwise remains in control , so you still have oem driveability and all obd2 functions . The Apexi Neo is a good example of a piggyback fuel tuner .
Apexi-USA - AFC-neo
My Mustang uses a Hypertech handheld programmer that reflashes the oem ecu via the obd2 port . This is the best option which is why i was hoping NGM would eventually go this route with the Forte . It changed the rev limit , top speed , fuel curve , timing curve , shift firmness , shift points etc.
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alot of useful information thank you i will have to do some more research the apexi neo sounds good but it will mean nothing to me if i dont know how to work them complex settings if you read the manual.pdf on it you will see what im talking about lol
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That is why a lot of guys have their fuel/ignition tuner installed and tuned by professionals at a chassis dyno equipped performance centre . It helps to have a general understanding of what is going on but all you really need is a good wideband o2 sensor and gauge to keep an eye on the a/f .
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thats were turbokits come's in
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