Fog Ligts Question?
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I asked the dealer about installing them and they told me the fog light option had to be done at the factory. I don't know if he was BSing me or what but I want them to. I know the fog light switch is located on the turn indicator switch like the regular lights. You would have to rig them with a switch some place else I guess or wire them to automatically come on when the head lights do.
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The dealer is correct. It is a factory install, however, the EX can be equipped with the "technology package" which does have the fog lamps among other options.
It is not impossible to install the lights but the difficulty would rank about an 11 on a scale of 1 to 10. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. The other thing I would not want to attempt would be the finger tip controls on the steering wheel. The LX doesn't have it and it's not available as an option either.
The problem comes in with the turn signal stalk. When the fog lamps are actuated they are designed to work only with the low beams. When the high beams are actuated, the fog lamps are turned off. It is my understanding that if both the high beams and the fog lamps are turned on simultaneously, it can result in a traffic ticket.
I had a 2009 Sonata GLS without the fog lamps. I could have gotten the lamps off ebay but when I read the Hyundai forum and the photos of the installation I gave up the idea entirely. I no longer have the car. I am not afraid of doing something like this and have done pretty much everything on a car at one time or another including adding factory air to a vehicle a few years ago. That was a piece of cake compared to the electrical work necessary to make this a factory equivalent job. Some will tell you differently but I would be very leary of tackling this. You could stick them in the opening for the "look" of the fog lamps and conceivably wire them to a simple toggle switch but you would have to be cognizant when they had to be switched off. But you wouldn't have the factory version.
I suspect this is a marketing ploy to get people to move up the product line.
I hate to be so blunt but it would have been better to have simply gotten the SX and be done with it. Even if one gets the SX without leather or a moon roof those are doable options which can be added later. Some say the aftermarket leather kits are superior to the factory option.
It is not impossible to install the lights but the difficulty would rank about an 11 on a scale of 1 to 10. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. The other thing I would not want to attempt would be the finger tip controls on the steering wheel. The LX doesn't have it and it's not available as an option either.
The problem comes in with the turn signal stalk. When the fog lamps are actuated they are designed to work only with the low beams. When the high beams are actuated, the fog lamps are turned off. It is my understanding that if both the high beams and the fog lamps are turned on simultaneously, it can result in a traffic ticket.
I had a 2009 Sonata GLS without the fog lamps. I could have gotten the lamps off ebay but when I read the Hyundai forum and the photos of the installation I gave up the idea entirely. I no longer have the car. I am not afraid of doing something like this and have done pretty much everything on a car at one time or another including adding factory air to a vehicle a few years ago. That was a piece of cake compared to the electrical work necessary to make this a factory equivalent job. Some will tell you differently but I would be very leary of tackling this. You could stick them in the opening for the "look" of the fog lamps and conceivably wire them to a simple toggle switch but you would have to be cognizant when they had to be switched off. But you wouldn't have the factory version.
I suspect this is a marketing ploy to get people to move up the product line.
I hate to be so blunt but it would have been better to have simply gotten the SX and be done with it. Even if one gets the SX without leather or a moon roof those are doable options which can be added later. Some say the aftermarket leather kits are superior to the factory option.
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You couldn't be more wrong. It comes down to simple wiring. The worst part is fishing the wires thru the firewall. I purchased the fogs for my EX about a week ago. When they arrive I'll do a write up on it.
It's been done btw. A simple search will show you someone with a Koup has already installed the lights.
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Including the turn stalk???
Have you considered the warranty implications? I can't imagine these aftermarket changes being covered, not to mention the car might catch on fire if the wiring shorts out.
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As far as how difficult it would be to wire the fogs I think missourimule was actually reffering to setting up the fog lights to work exactly like a stock SX by using the stock (I can't think of the word right now) light/blinker toggle. Yes you can easily put some type of aftermarket switch in there to make it work but it will be exponentially more difficult to try and make it OEM.
Mike, you're going to be hardpressed to find a dealer who will do the work for you and if someone does happen to say yes it's going to be very expensive. My advice is find a friend with a little bit of knowledge in electrical wiring, wait till sje0123 does a write-up for the sedan if you have the sedan, or use the Koup write-up that Linear did if you have the Koup. Don't forget to buy your friend lunch!
Here's the Koup fog light write-up...
http://www.forteforums.com/forums/d...koup-install-guide-including-wiring-pics.html
Mike, you're going to be hardpressed to find a dealer who will do the work for you and if someone does happen to say yes it's going to be very expensive. My advice is find a friend with a little bit of knowledge in electrical wiring, wait till sje0123 does a write-up for the sedan if you have the sedan, or use the Koup write-up that Linear did if you have the Koup. Don't forget to buy your friend lunch!
Here's the Koup fog light write-up...
http://www.forteforums.com/forums/d...koup-install-guide-including-wiring-pics.html
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I honestly don't understand why there is this debate on the fogs and how hard it is...What is the big deal about making it factory anyway? Install the fogs, run the electrical to a toggle and be done with it. Are we so lazy nowadays that we can't turn off the toggle when we shut off the car? If you can't visually see the light from the fogs when they are on and forget to shut them off then I seriously have a problem with anyone, including myself having a license. I just don't get it. Like sje0123 said, the hardest part will be running the wires through the firewall. The rest is easy.
I personally find it more appealing to be able to turn the fogs on with a toggle switch in the early evening, and have just the parking lights on. Looks mean on most cars. Then you can keep them on when you turn your headlights on, and with your brights on if that's what you wish. It just seems like everyone is worried about it being stock so they don't have to mentally remember to turn them off.
I personally find it more appealing to be able to turn the fogs on with a toggle switch in the early evening, and have just the parking lights on. Looks mean on most cars. Then you can keep them on when you turn your headlights on, and with your brights on if that's what you wish. It just seems like everyone is worried about it being stock so they don't have to mentally remember to turn them off.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see someone asserting that this is an easy job for a layman to tackle. Let me stipulate that ANYTHING is possible if one wants to put their mind to it. However, the average person has absolutely no business tackling something like this. I saw the photos and this was roughly comparable to the photos I saw on the Hyundai forum. There are still two very salient aspects which will not be addressed with this after market modification. The wiring will not be stock and will not be warranteed. Just imagine that if a fire erupts and burns out a wiring harness. The cost would be astronomical. And think about when it is time to trade it in. If the dealer is any kind of a dealer they will have to check all of this out before they put it out for resale. If I were a dealer and had some backyard mechanic pull in with this modification I would do two things. I would figure out what it would cost to put it back in stock condition and then determine how much I would knock off his trade-in value.
Do this at your own peril and hope the wiring never shorts out and burns the car down.
I once put in a power seat in a car but I will never attempt a project having to do with electrical work again. I won't go into details here but it turned into an unmitigated nightmare before it was over.
Do this at your own peril and hope the wiring never shorts out and burns the car down.
I once put in a power seat in a car but I will never attempt a project having to do with electrical work again. I won't go into details here but it turned into an unmitigated nightmare before it was over.
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It's pretty obvious you have ZERO experience or even basic knowledge in electrical. Nothing will burn down. That's why you protect the circuit w/ a relay and a fuse. You are shooting from the hip here with no knowledge of the topic.
Obviously it won't be covered under warranty. Why would it? It's a simple circuit. Troubleshooting is easy. Adding the lights will in no way effect the current warranty or any resale value of the car. Why would it? Unless you completely FUBAR the wiring there won't be an issue.
Yes even including the turn stalk. All the new one will do is add a pin the the wiring harness for the fog wiring. Very simple to do.
I am not going to bother with the stalk as it's not worth the added cost.
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Some people like keeping it oem clean. I personally HATE when there are random switches for foglights and LEDs. Makes the car look like a 16 yo was the previous owner. It just looks better IMO.
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Thats why you buy a universal fog light wiring harness that just bolts into place and splices into the stock wiring. i got one for my car, couldnt have been any easier to install and i see no way it could cause a short and burn my car to the ground with the two built in fuses
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Where did you pass thru the firewall? i havent had a look yet but I'm hoping a grommet is easily accessible. I'm guessing hood latch??
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Actually, I have had enough experience with electrical matters that I know better than to jury rig something like this.
You may discount this but if and when this vehicle goes in for warranty work, this will be noticed by the dealer and if there is an electric problem the owner will be blamed and this can get costly. Price out a wiring harness if you don't believe me.
In residential houses, there are strict wiring codes as you may know. And if you get involved with that as a private owner and not a licensed electrician you also run the possibility of voiding your homeowner's insurance. And I guarantee you that household wiring is a darned sight more simple than the wiring on an automobile.
But you do what you want to do. And I would appreciate if you would avoid personal attacks. You don't know me and I don't know you. I'm giving my best advice on how to avoid major problems down the road.
I agree with both sides on this i did multiple wiring jobs on my old cobalt including fogs, neons, and underglow and never once had a problem with anything catching on fire...all it takes is a lil knowledge like previously stated but however i do agree that i dnt want switches hanging or any warranty problems so wat i will do and my best advice would b to check it out both ways n decide which is a better option for you depending on your knowledge and skills along with money issues.
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No actually theirs a hole in the fire wall and if you have the stock intake, it should be right behind it. Theirs two bolts and a metal cover, take it off and there should be a 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch hole
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And also if anyone knows are these OEM's manfactured by KIA? Cause my dealership wont install them unless they are OEM from kia and not after market
OEM 08 10 Kia Forte L R Fog Lights Lamp Assy 2P Cerato - eBay (item 170620127376 end time Apr-24-11 01:30:26 PDT)
OEM 08 10 Kia Forte L R Fog Lights Lamp Assy 2P Cerato - eBay (item 170620127376 end time Apr-24-11 01:30:26 PDT)
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Seems to be: "Kia Motors OEM"And also if anyone knows are these OEM's manfactured by KIA? Cause my dealership wont install them unless they are OEM from kia and not after market
OEM 08 10 Kia Forte L R Fog Lights Lamp Assy 2P Cerato - eBay (item 170620127376 end time Apr-24-11 01:30:26 PDT)![]()
That's quite a gouge on the shipping charge but it does ship from South Korea.
I'd call the dealer and have him look up the part #. That will tell you if they are OEM.
92201.922021M000
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Those are OEM fog lights. They don't make any aftermarket yet. That guy is a good seller. I have bought multiple things from him. Shipping takes a lil while but thats to be expected as it comes from Korea.
Keep in mind though you will also need the inserts.
Keep in mind though you will also need the inserts.
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