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i know many of you on here have installed HID kits to your fortes..

1) how often do you get high-beams flashed at you (or just put on and they leave them on as they are driving towards you) since you have put your HIDs in? i've seen it talked about briefly during posts of people's hid threads, but i jus want to hear from yall here..

i've had mine in since saturday, and tuesday night i was coming home with almost every other car flashing high beams at me... :/

i adjusted the lights when i got home, but now they seem too low...i dont feel like i am getting the distance of light as i should. i tried setting them, and walking out from my car and walking towards it (100ft+ then back) and daang they are bright lights shining at you.

(i also have 6000K fogs in) and for those of you who have HID fogs,
2) do you run your fogs all the time? im used to the extra light from the fogs running, and i hate not running them (for my own sake..hah)

3) anyone been pulled over for having lights so bright the police think you're running your highs all the time? :(

4) so what do yall do to keep from high beams always being shined back at you? or police pulling you over?
 

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Just asking, are you using a projector? HIDs are made for projectors, not stock halogen headlights lol. My brother got pulled-over within 2 days of his HIDs and had to remove them.

Using a projector will leave a clean cut-off and you won't look like you have your brights on and cops could care less then. It's not the brightness that will get you in trouble, but the scattered light that the HIDs without a projector is causing.

By no means am I putting them down, just expect to get more negative attention without using a projector.
 

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1) rarely get flashed, once every 3 weeks, and they turn it off once i flash them
2) Got the Fogs, they run as long as the car is running (even if it's morning)
3) never got pulled over for it (knock on wood), people around here have 10,000K and never get pulled over
 

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Just asking, are you using a projector? HIDs are made for projectors, not stock halogen headlights lol. My brother got pulled-over within 2 days of his HIDs and had to remove them.

Using a projector will leave a clean cut-off and you won't look like you have your brights on and cops could care less then. It's not the brightness that will get you in trouble, but the scattered light that the HIDs without a projector is causing.

By no means am I putting them down, just expect to get more negative attention without using a projector.

no projector. i know i really should have projectors with HID, but i am asking bc i know many on here have them installed w/ out projectors and so thats why im wondering.
 

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1) rarely get flashed, once every 3 weeks, and they turn it off once i flash them
2) Got the Fogs, they run as long as the car is running (even if it's morning)
3) never got pulled over for it (knock on wood), people around here have 10,000K and never get pulled over
do you just have them aimed down really far?

.. i've been noticing many people around here (since i've put mine in) with really bright HID shining in my eyes while driving.
 

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do you just have them aimed down really far?

.. i've been noticing many people around here (since i've put mine in) with really bright HID shining in my eyes while driving.

Stock height, no change.

Just so you know, Fog lights cause most of the glare.


Also, mine are 35W, and 5000K

(if you have bluer, you'll get more flashes, and more wattage = more glare)

I get flashed, just once in a couple of weeks, i probably got flashed like 15 times since october)
 

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oh ok. thats not too bad. i guess mine were aimed high the other night. plus i was driving on a lot of hills. i have 35W 6000K for both. so not higher wattage, but yea the fogs put off a lot of the glare.
 

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i have 35w 6k low and fogs. i drive with just my fogs on day and night and never get flashed or get in trouble with the cops
 

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35w, 4300k HIDs in stock housing. I decided to try them back when I bought the car to see if light output and beam pattern would be fine, all without crazy glare. I was pleased with the result.

I have not been flashed even once since April of last year.
 

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I bought 10 000 HID's which is a bluer lighting, and i was wondering what do you mean by the projectors?
 

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Projector (polyellipsoidal) lamps

Projector optics, side view



Projector headlamps on an Acura RL



In this system a filament is located at one focus of an ellipsoidal reflector and has a condenser lens at the front of the lamp. A shade is located at the image plane, between the reflector and lens, and the projection of the top edge of this shade provides the low-beam cutoff. The shape of the shade edge, and its exact position in the optical system, determines the shape and sharpness of the cutoff.[14] The shade may have a solenoid actuated pivot to provide both low and high beam – the shade is removed from the light path to create high beam, and placed in the light path to create low beam, and such optics are known as BiXenon or BiHalogen projectors, depending on the light source used. If there is no such arrangement, the cutoff shade is fixed in the light path, in which case separate high-beam lamps are required. The condenser lens may have slight fresnel rings or other surface treatments to reduce cutoff sharpness. Recent condenser lenses incorporate optical features specifically designed to direct some light upward towards the locations of retroreflective overhead road signs.
Hella introduced ellipsoidal optics for acetylene headlamps in 1911, but following the electrification of vehicle lighting, this optical technique wasn't used for many decades. The first modern polyellipsoidal (projector) automotive lamp was the Super-Lite, an auxiliary headlamp produced in a joint venture between Chrysler Corporation and Sylvania and optionally installed in 1969 and 1970 full-size Dodge automobiles. It used an 85 watt transverse-filament tungsten-halogen bulb and was intended as a mid-beam, to extend the reach of the low beams during turnpike travel when low beams alone were inadequate but high beams would produce excessive glare.[21]
Projector main headlamps first appeared in 1981 on the Audi Quartz, the Quattro-based concept car designed by Pininfarina for Geneva Auto Salon.[citation needed] Developed more or less simultaneously in Germany by Hella and Bosch and in France by Cibié, the projector low beam permitted accurate beam focus and a much smaller-diameter optical package, though a much deeper one, for any given beam output. The version of the 1986 BMW 7 Series sold outside North America was the first volume-production auto to use polyellipsoidal low beam headlamps.

also found this...

Glare
Vehicles equipped with HID headlamps are required by ECE regulation 48 also to be equipped with headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic beam levelling control. Both of these measures are intended to reduce the tendency for high-output headlamps to cause high levels of glare to other road users. In North America, ECE R48 does not apply and while lens cleaners and beam levellers are permitted, they are not required;[33] HID headlamps are markedly less prevalent in the US, where they have produced significant glare complaints.[34] Scientific study of headlamp glare has shown that for any given intensity level, the light from HID headlamps is 40% more glaring than the light from tungsten-halogen headlamps.[35]
 

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When I had my stock headlights I would get flashed every now and then. Once I put in my 35W 5000k headlights (I now have 6000K) and adjusted the level I haven't got flashed once. HID's are becoming so common now I can't imagine you having a problem with the authorities unless you have something really different.

And like others have stated you're probably mostly getting flashed because of your fogs. I haven't installed my fogs yet but once I do I'm not going to go HID because it's way too bright IMO, I'll probably just do a SilverStar halogen or something.
 

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I bet the fogs are the problem...

Lights designed around the H11 bulb are very well designed in terms of cut off and glare control. This is because the H11 is a very exact bulb in terms of filament placement. The bulb filament placement is also fairly close to a H11 HID rebased bulb. That's not to say you should go with an HID in a halogen reflector retrofit, as there is extra glare. With that said it's not super terrible as say a 9007 retro.

The 88x series of bulb have junk specs. Thank god they don't give off a lot of light because they have terrible glare control. You really need to lower your fogs with a HID retrofit take a look at the front I bet you'll notice that most of the glare is from the fogs.
 
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