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well i did some youtube searching before i bought mine and the 11225 was too quite for me. i will say that the 12865 is loud but its by no means a ricey sound. compared to some of the hondas that my friends have, it sounds like an r8 lol but its got a very nice purr to it at idle and when accelerating, its not ricey but instead, a lowish growl. and then when you add the CAI sound to it, its like music from the heavens :)

now with that being said, i will be upgrading to the Turbokits.com Catback but i havnt the money yet :p
 

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No I just have the muffler. And yeah you can go to a shop and see if they would put the mandrel piping in. but make they are just going to bend it. It has to be mandrel bent. If not, then there are full exhaust kits out there for our cars and you can take it to a local body shop and have them install it for you
 
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