well i did some youtube searching before i bought mine and the 11225 was too quite for me. i will say that the 12865 is loud but its by no means a ricey sound. compared to some of the hondas that my friends have, it sounds like an r8 lol but its got a very nice purr to it at idle and when accelerating, its not ricey but instead, a lowish growl. and then when you add the CAI sound to it, its like music from the heavens
now with that being said, i will be upgrading to the Turbokits.com Catback but i havnt the money yet
