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Here is some info I learned this morning. Believe it or not I did not have to go to Facebook to find it either. ;)

So the stock plugs on the Forte GT are 18849-08080 (NGK 97080 - SILZKR8E8G) heat range 8
NGK.com: SILZKR8E8G NGK 97080 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement

The suggested replacement is NGK 1422 - 1LKR8E6 (heat range 8)
NGK.com: ILKR8E6 NGK 1422 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement

Heat range 9 suggestion is NGK 97312 - 1LKR9Q7G (heat range 9)
NGK.com: ILKR9Q7G NGK 97312 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement

Several people here are using the stock plugs stock gap (.031) with a Racechip with no issues on 87, 91 and 93 fuel
Several people are also using the heat range 9 and also have no issues.
Several people are using stock plugs or upgraded plugs with a closed up gap (.025-.028) and again no issues
I personally feel for under 250 hp the heat range 8 stock or NGK 1422 will do
If getting a more serious tune 250+ hp go with the NGK 97312 heat range 9

One person mentioned getting slight detonation with stock plugs and gap which might be remedied with a tighter gap.
Steve g - I keep my GTS on 7 always with stock plugs and premium fuel (California’s idea of premium) If it’s over 100 degrees outside I can get slight detonation under a really heavy load. Not worth re-gapping plugs over it.

Here is what I found interesting. The difference between the stock plug and the NGK 1422. The stock NGK plug uses a 1mm Iridium center electrode diameter and the NGK 1422 uses a .6mm Iridium center electrode diameter. The reason is that a smaller center electrode diameter requires less voltage to get a strong spark which also means you should not need to reduce gap compared to the stock plug. So the NGK 1422 should have a stronger spark than stock based on this theory. The second change is the stock NKG plug has an extended projection center electrode which puts the spark closer to center of combustion chamber. The NGK 1422 has a standard projection center electrode which pulls the spark slightly closer to the edge of combustion chamber. You can read all day about this projection stuff. One interesting thing is that less projection slightly retards timing and also works better if the combustion chamber temps are high. There are several other things as well but that was interesting.
NGK.com: NGK Center Electrode Designs

I decided to order a set of the NGK 1422 to try for the fun of it. I will let you know in a couple weeks if I notice any differences. Like I said right now I have no issues with my stock plugs and stock gap but maybe these NGK 1422 will make it feel even better. Worth a shot for $50. I have not decided on gap yet but might try them at the stock .031 since the larger gap tends to provide better fuel economy assuming the gap is not too big for the spark under full throttle loads with increased boost.
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Heat range 9, .028 gap, 0.6mm electrode. These are the plugs most will be running now vs the HKS M45xl plugs. I'll be running these on my next set with lowering the gap as well.
Since 95% of my driving is 2000-2500 rpm 35mpg driving I am not sure heat range 9 is the best choice for my situation. My engine will see full throttle maybe 6 times a day and only for a few seconds at a time.
Since 95% of my driving is 2000-2500 rpm 35mpg driving I am not sure heat range 9 is the best choice for my situation. My engine will see full throttle maybe 6 times a day and only for a few seconds at a time.
Going to be a very few options for what you are looking for.
Look up HKS M40XL, heat range 8 like stock, 0.6 electrode. Gap not sure. Busy at the moment to look into full specs.
I agree it might be the right thing but I don't like HKS reputation for plugs. And your right what I want is hard to match.
Since 95% of my driving is 2000-2500 rpm 35mpg driving I am not sure heat range 9 is the best choice for my situation. My engine will see full throttle maybe 6 times a day and only for a few seconds at a time.
My MPG goes down to low 20s with very spirited driving, E35 mix, methanol injection, tuned, and mods ect.. Cruising high 20s and highway cruising 30s+. Tune only kicks in when full throttle. If I use 93 the MPG numbers go up. I'm happy with this because it's how I like my car to be. Currently using HKS M45XL heat range 9 gapped at .022
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I ordered the NGK 93819, they seem to check all the boxes. .6mm electrode .028mm gap out of the box and all the same specs as stock except the standard projection instead of extended projection and standard electrode instead of square taper cut. I will see how they look when I get them saturday.
NGK.com: ILKR8Q7 NGK 93819 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement
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I ordered the NGK 93819, they seem to check all the boxes. .6mm electrode .28mm gap out of the box and all the same specs as stock except the standard projection instead of extended projection and standard electrode instead of square taper cut. I will see how they look when I get them saturday.
NGK.com: ILKR8Q7 NGK 93819 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement
YES! This is what I like. The one who will venture out and not follow the sheep. I’m really looking forward to the outcome.
YES! This is what I like. The one who will venture out and not follow the sheep. I’m really looking forward to the outcome.
YES! This is what I like. The one who will venture out and not follow the sheep. I’m really looking forward to the outcome.
Most of these plugs mentioned in this thread have been tested on tuned and piggyback units. Some here might not agree, some will agree, and some might not bother to take the effort to look up/provide data they have done or found. The data is available if you branch to other data sources. Most done by tuners and many done on thier own cars and customers cars. Both provided thier data that matches others. Just not going to find it here on this forum. The NGK 93819 I have not seen been tested. The new NGK ILKR9Q7G are now in multiple tuned and piggybacked 1.6Ts. Tuners own cars and customers cars. Time will tell how they do. These cars with them in will/do drive thier cars very spirited daily.
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I was going to play with sparkplugs today but decided to look one last time at what NGK has to offer. I found these NGK 1402 NGK.com: SILKR8A-S NGK 1402 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement

They are .6mm iridium electrode diameter with every other spec the same as the stock plug, extended projection, taper cut .031 gap. The only difference listed is "special gasket". I will have them tomorrow and see what this special gasket is.
I agree it might be the right thing but I don't like HKS reputation for plugs. And your right what I want is hard to match.
HKS spark plugs are made by NGK.
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I agree it might be the right thing but I don't like HKS reputation for plugs. And your right what I want is hard to match.

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Pictures of my testing and if anyone wants to know I have 25k on my car. This was not a cheap test either.
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Pictures of my testing and if anyone wants to know I have 25k on my car. This was not a cheap test either.
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LOL! Reminds me of testing sparkplug indexing at the old Hallsville TX dragstrip back in the 80's to see if there was any performance gain if the gap opened to a particular part of the combustion chamber. After a whole day of testing found it didn't matter where the spark plug opening faced.
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LOL! Reminds me of testing sparkplug indexing at the old Hallsville TX dragstrip back in the 80's to see if there was any performance gain if the gap opened to a particular part of the combustion chamber. After a whole day of testing found it didn't matter where the spark plug opening faced.
we used to call that plug indexing too, I remember my friends doing that back in high school when they had way more time than money.
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Swapped the plugs today. I installed the NGK 1402 NGK.com: SILKR8A-S NGK 1402 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement
The "special gasket" on the NGK 1402 was thinner than the other replacement plugs but did not seem to make any difference installing them.

I have zero issues with the stock plugs but like to experiment to see if there might be something better. I want the largest gap I can without having any negative effects with the added boost from the Racechip. I set the gap at .032 which should give the best fuel economy and burn efficiency assuming the spark is strong enough under full boost. Since the stock plug has a 1mm iridium center electrode using .6mm should make a stronger spark since it requires less energy, This is the theory anyway. I took it for decent ride and really noticed nothing different. Idle might be slightly smoother and power feels identical, this was on 87 octane. Full throttle with Racechip on level 5 had no problems. I will fill up with 93 octane and see how these feel for the next couple weeks.

The thing that surprised me the most is how much longer the stock plugs are from all the plugs that are supposed to be the same length. All of the NGK replacement plugs change the spark location a pretty large amount. These NGK replacements all move the spark closer to the edge of the combustion chamber. Not sure what affects that has to combustion.
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Any spark plug experts have feedback on my stock plugs after 8000 miles. From what I can find on the internet they seem perfect.
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Swapped the plugs today. I installed the NGK 1402 NGK.com: SILKR8A-S NGK 1402 Iridium Spark Plug - Best Car Spark Plug Replacement

I have zero issues with the stock plugs but like to experiment to see if there might be something better. I want the largest gap I can without having any negative effects with the added boost from the Racechip. I set the gap at .032 which should give the best fuel economy and burn efficiency assuming the spark is strong enough under ffull boost. Since the stock plug has a 1mm iridium center electrode using .6mm should make a stronger spark since it requires less energy, This is the theory anyway. I took it for decent ride and really noticed nothing different. Idle might be slightly smoother and power feels identical, this was on 87 octane. Full throttle with Racechip on level 5 had no problems. I will fill up with 93 octane and see how these feel for the next couple weeks.

The thing that surprised me the most is how much longer the stock plugs are from all the plugs that are supposed to be the same length. All of the NGK replacement plugs changes the spark location a pretty large amount. These NGK replacements all move the spark closer to the edge of the combustion chamber. Not sure what affects that has to combustion.
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Run the Racechip at its highest settings at map7 when testing. That's what should be done.
Any spark plug experts have feedback on my stock plugs after 8000 miles. From what I can find on the internet they seem perfect.
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Plugs look fine
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Run the Racechip at its highest settings at map7 when testing. That's what should be done.
I can do that as well. 5 always feels stronger but I can try it out on with 87 octane since I have a little bit left and then try it out for the next couple weeks with the 93 octane as well. With the stock plugs 7 was never an issue with 87 or 93 octane.
I can do that as well. 5 always feels stronger but I can try it out on with 87 octane since I have a little bit left and then try it out for the next couple weeks with the 93 octane as well. With the stock plugs 7 was never an issue with 87 or 93 octane.
I also found Racechip customer support on a stinger forum regarding GTS map 6 and 7 must be 93+ and stating info on plugs. Which would/should pass to other platforms with running GTS 6-7 maps
Actually if you select different models from the website you will get a banner across the top for models they suggest using different plugs with. The Stinger 2.0 and 3.3 suggest upgraded plugs but the Stinger 2.5 does not. The Veloster N gets the warning for upgraded plugs as well. The 1.6l turbo vehicles from Kia and Hyundai do not require upgraded plugs.

I wonder if you guys that have 80-100 degree temps are more susceptible to problems then guys like me who see 60-90 degrees normally
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