Thats my point , this numbers where with bolt ons, and in the stock car i have videos with 12 hp. And the exhast on that car is just an axle back that doesnt really count, wich proves that not only stock turbo cars can produce 20hp whith a tune. Not trying to piss anyone off but, there are better things out there with even better prices. But tuners( not all) are to comftreable, and dont like to sweet for their money anymore. Because i think the piggyback isint cost worthy when compared with what ive shown and i know it is possible for the forte, tuners just have to work hard.