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I was wondering what you guys think about this mod. let me know. im thinking about ordering it...



RRM Piggy BACK ECU Forte Manual

$429.00

This ECU add on is designed to maximize the performance of your Manual Transmission Kia Forte. We have maximized the fuel curves to better take advantage of basic mods like intake, header and exhaust. Regardless of mods, this Piggyback unit will increase h.p. for any N/A Forte! It is also proven to INCREASE GAS MILEAGE. It is the single most effective upgrade you can buy short of a turbo kit. Expect serious gains in top end power and more torque throughout the powerband. Furthermore, this unit comes with complete directions for installation and all the necessary hardware needed to install. Requires use of 87 or better octane fuel only. LAPTOP PROGRAMMABLE SOFTWARE INCLUDED HOWEVER THE UNIT IS PRE-PROGRAMMED TO MAXIMIZE POWER AND EFFICIENCY!
 

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how much power are we talking about?
 

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Sounds good but I don't like piggy back ECUs. Piggy back systems look like it could have problems and just pain in the ass systems. I would rather have an actual tune program that it would reprogram the stock ecu and be nicer. Examples of good tune systems like HP Tuners for GM, HONDATA for Hondas and etc...:eek:
 

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It's possible, just may be possible, that this piggyback device might provide some additional power. Kia is bound by regulations -- as are all car manufacturers -- to meet stringent emissions laws. RRM could actually have mapped out fuel and ignition curves that will produce more power but will make the car a polluter compared to the emissions laws. Kia can't do that or they would incur the wrath of the "Gummit".
99.9 percent of owners would not be able to "tune" their engine for increased performance even if they were handed a computer with which to tune with. The only way we'll know is if someone buys this piggyback and tests it on their car...and then takes it off and have someone else test it on another car.
Back when the car computers had removable PROMS there were companies that provide PROMs with mapped fuel and ignition curves that did increase power significantly. I had a chance to talk to some Buick electrical engineers and asked why they couldn't do the same...and they said they were bound by Corporate rules to meet the Federal Emissions standards AND provide performance based on the level of fuel octane the owners were expected to use, or be able to purchase normally.

If someone is interested and taking the gamble...go for it...just let us know how it works out.
 

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It's possible, just may be possible, that this piggyback device might provide some additional power. Kia is bound by regulations -- as are all car manufacturers -- to meet stringent emissions laws. RRM could actually have mapped out fuel and ignition curves that will produce more power but will make the car a polluter compared to the emissions laws. Kia can't do that or they would incur the wrath of the "Gummit".
99.9 percent of owners would not be able to "tune" their engine for increased performance even if they were handed a computer with which to tune with. The only way we'll know is if someone buys this piggyback and tests it on their car...and then takes it off and have someone else test it on another car.
Back when the car computers had removable PROMS there were companies that provide PROMs with mapped fuel and ignition curves that did increase power significantly. I had a chance to talk to some Buick electrical engineers and asked why they couldn't do the same...and they said they were bound by Corporate rules to meet the Federal Emissions standards AND provide performance based on the level of fuel octane the owners were expected to use, or be able to purchase normally.

If someone is interested and taking the gamble...go for it...just let us know how it works out.
Ah the old Turbo Buick days. The other issues was the proms used by GM had less storage(proms were expensive) so a few k difference in storage meant more money.

ECUs used by manufactures were also just powerful enough to run the car. People upgraded them with more powerful ones. Ones that could read wideband etc so they were able to run the fuel system more efficiently.

Today's cars are limited by EPA standards, reliablility reasons and marketing reason(they don't want the forte to be as fast a Genesis 2.0T).

A 2.4 GDI with an agreesive tune would make the Forte crap all over a stock Si.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen a RRM dyno. I know they don't own their own car like Turbo-kits does, perhaps they need someone to bring theirs and they'll install it and do a dyno then take it back out? Although I doubt that.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen a RRM dyno. I know they don't own their own car like Turbo-kits does, perhaps they need someone to bring theirs and they'll install it and do a dyno then take it back out? Although I doubt that.
I was told by RRM that they actualy HAVE the dyno sheet "somewhere" !!
 

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It would be interesting if it actually provided a good amount of power gains, which I doubt... And if only they could come up with something to take care of the gas pedal lag when you jump on it..!
 

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Not to mention I have asked about the other parts the are going to offer off of the car they did ie. window spoiler, blackend gas door....and was told let me check on that stuff now....Still haven't heard anything back.
 

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So I guess it's will be "wait 'till TurboKit come up with some tuning option for us"!!!
 

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So has anyone tried this out yet?
 
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