There are a few things it could be. I hope you don't find that it needs new camshaft phasers. They are attached to the end of each camshaft. If the simple stuff all checks out that will most likely be the culprit.
Timing Chain 2017 Kia Forte 120,000 miles
Had code P0017 car running perfect, got oil change Synthetic , code still on
Car still runs perfect. Checked VVT solonoids because easy to get to, did resistance
and put 9volt to see open and close all seemd ok Cleaned and replaced. Car still runs perfect
Dicsonnect battery to clear CEL car runs 30 miles perfect no CEL then come home car still runs perfect and CEL back on
code P0017 again Car does run perfect
Car still runs perfect. Checked VVT solonoids because easy to get to, did resistance
and put 9volt to see open and close all seemd ok Cleaned and replaced. Car still runs perfect
Dicsonnect battery to clear CEL car runs 30 miles perfect no CEL then come home car still runs perfect and CEL back on
code P0017 again Car does run perfect
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Having code P0017 car runs perfect, Kia says need new timing chain $2300.00
does this sound possible/probable. Said solenoids checked out, only thing left to do is check Timing chain and at that point with 120000 miles might as well replace timing chain?
Have you changed timing chain at repair shop what was cost?
does this sound possible/probable. Said solenoids checked out, only thing left to do is check Timing chain and at that point with 120000 miles might as well replace timing chain?
Have you changed timing chain at repair shop what was cost?
Why did you start a second thread, when you already have one going on the same problem (and which you never replied back on)?
At that price I would get a second opinion and have them look at the tensioner.
jfc what kind of driving do you do to put 120k on in less than 5 years?
That's not bad. I've seen multiple 2019s with over 250k miles on them for salejfc what kind of driving do you do to put 120k on in less than 5 years?
I have merged the 2 threads here.
Im a newbee forgive me i was looking for info to help me, i did not receive any thing beyond what i knew alreadyWhy did you start a second thread, when you already have one going on the same problem (and which you never replied back on)?
i then took car to kia dealer told 2300 for new timing chain (this was my reply to the first post) i was not aware of how to add the post to an existing post ill keep that in mind for the future.
thanks, trouble getting to merged post thoughI have merged the 2 threads here.
College student with girlfriend 150 miles each way at another school😁That's not bad. I've seen multiple 2019s with over 250k miles on them for sale
Thanks, I am doing that on monday. I watched a great tutorial explaining how most Dealerships forAt that price I would get a second opinion and have them look at the tensioner.
these cars follow a test procedure which often prematurely leads to a timing chain issue. No scope no
testing of the actual advance or retard of timing just solenoid is good (maybe) must be timing chain.
Car trade in value about $4K not sure if its worth the repair
i was hoping to get actual costs you all have paid for timing chain, sprocket , tensioner replace.
i get 6 hours at 150 hour =$900 plus $300-$500 Parts $1400 sounds about right to me??
i get 6 hours at 150 hour =$900 plus $300-$500 Parts $1400 sounds about right to me??
I have 134,000+ miles on my 17 Forte and have no problems like that. Hell, I run my oil changes between 8,500 to 10,000 miles. My car hasn't really had any problems besides a crappy plug on the blower motor, trunk latch, faulty coil and a love for burning out the low beam headlights. All minor crap. I'm changing the oil today on it today as while I'm approaching 150,000 miles I may get to 7,500 mile oil changes. Mobil1 and a Mobil1 filter. I have no idea what's going on with your car, but I really don't think it's timing chain related. Some of these 2.0 engines have over 200,000 miles on them and are still running the original timing chain. You DEFINITELY need to get a second opinion. All of my miles come from rural living and a wife that has multiple doctors in multiple cities. She's all effed up!
I posted what I did because there are so many airheads who show up on these forums and post problems, but never return even after others spend their time giving feedback. But it's apparent now that you're not one of them, and there's never a problem with someone not knowing how things work.Im a newbee forgive me ....
AFA your P0017 code, one important question is - do you live in a state which has any type of vehicle emissions testing (AKA safety testing)? The answer to that makes a big difference as to what your options are.
yes I am in N.J about 6 months ago i went for inspection and failed because the emissions, fuel system showed not ready. Ultimately i had Kia do a soft ware reboot. The test showed all ready and i got my inspection. However it was not easy. I have since had coils, sparkplugs, and gas system flush. Car runs well except P0017I posted what I did because there are so many airheads who show up on these forums and post problems, but never return even after others spend their time giving feedback. But it's apparent now that you're not one of them, and there's never a problem with someone not knowing how things work.
AFA your P0017 code, one important question is - do you live in a state which has any type of vehicle emissions testing (AKA safety testing)? The answer to that makes a big difference as to what your options are.
Thanks, all in all its been an OK car. Plugs, Coils, Tires etc. Thats why i question need for timing chain. still having it diagnosed at $150 each timeI have 134,000+ miles on my 17 Forte and have no problems like that. Hell, I run my oil changes between 8,500 to 10,000 miles. My car hasn't really had any problems besides a crappy plug on the blower motor, trunk latch, faulty coil and a love for burning out the low beam headlights. All minor crap. I'm changing the oil today on it today as while I'm approaching 150,000 miles I may get to 7,500 mile oil changes. Mobil1 and a Mobil1 filter. I have no idea what's going on with your car, but I really don't think it's timing chain related. Some of these 2.0 engines have over 200,000 miles on them and are still running the original timing chain. You DEFINITELY need to get a second opinion. All of my miles come from rural living and a wife that has multiple doctors in multiple cities. She's all effed up!
Ok, then perhaps the college you attend is in another state, which doesn't have emissions testing?yes I am in N.J ....
I'll also ask you what the oil change history has been on this vehicle. I saw what you wrote about the one oil change, but I'm asking about the complete mileage frequency of the oil changes, or however much you know anyway. No need of exact numbers - I'm mainly interested if there were any abnormally long gaps between any oil changes.
I've had to deal with this myself for many years, and have also seen lots of reports of emissions testing problems and resolutions. That said, I've never read anything like that before. But it worked, so good for you on that.....about 6 months ago i went for inspection and failed because the emissions, fuel system showed not ready. Ultimately i had Kia do a soft ware reboot. The test showed all ready and i got my inspection. ...
My college sons car oil changes around 5-7K miles, however when the oil change was done due to the P0017 code it was a late oil change about 7K-8K milesOk, then perhaps the college you attend is in another state, which doesn't have emissions testing?
I'll also ask you what the oil change history has been on this vehicle. I saw what you wrote about the one oil change, but I'm asking about the complete mileage frequency of the oil changes, or however much you know anyway. No need of exact numbers - I'm mainly interested if there were any abnormally long gaps between any oil changes.
I've had to deal with this myself for many years, and have also seen lots of reports of emissions testing problems and resolutions. That said, I've never read anything like that before. But it worked, so good for you on that.
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