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Timing Chain 2017 Kia Forte 120,000 miles

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Had code P0017 car running perfect, got oil change Synthetic , code still on
Car still runs perfect. Checked VVT solonoids because easy to get to, did resistance
and put 9volt to see open and close all seemd ok Cleaned and replaced. Car still runs perfect
Dicsonnect battery to clear CEL car runs 30 miles perfect no CEL then come home car still runs perfect and CEL back on
code P0017 again Car does run perfect
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My college sons car oil changes around 5-7K miles, however when the oil change was done due to the P0017 code it was a late oil change about 7K-8K miles
also since i was not able to do what was required to clear not ready codes ie drive 50 mph for 10 min then coast to stop
and idle then do the same, then regular deriving and then do it all again a real PIA so that was a problem car currently shows INC on fuel system and catalytic converters, but no specific codes for them
My college sons car oil changes around 5-7K miles, however when the oil change was done due to the P0017 code it was a late oil change about 7K-8K miles
That oil change history is fine, and the code is almost certainly not being set as a result of sludge in the engine.

Next question is the health of the charging system, particularly the battery. It's not clear to me if you are a DIYer, and have testing tools. If so, have you checked the battery with a meter yourself?

Don't waste time trying to reset the monitors, because one active OBD code will stop the emissions test. When the CEL is off and there are no active or permanent codes, the monitors will get to the ready state on their own, after the required amount of drive cycles takes place.
That oil change history is fine, and the code is almost certainly not being set as a result of sludge in the engine.

Next question is the health of the charging system, particularly the battery. It's not clear to me if you are a DIYer, and have testing tools. If so, have you checked the battery with a meter yourself?

Don't waste time trying to reset the monitors, because one active OBD code will stop the emissions test. When the CEL is off and there are no active or permanent codes, the monitors will get to the ready state on their own, after the required amount of drive cycles takes place.
Thanks for info, no i have not tested the battery, it is original to the car 6 years old. The car starts fine and shows no symptoms of a battery issue. I brought up battery to Kia service they said has nothing to do with P0017 and did not test it
.... I brought up battery to Kia service they said has nothing to do with P0017 and did not test it
I continue to be amazed (appalled actually) how bad so many of these outfits are. ANY code is electrical. The charging system is what provides electricity to the vehicle. I guess 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 for them. Sure, the code might not be caused by a faulty charging system, but to NOT just automatically do a simple load test on it? However, they tell you to do a chain job for $2300, with barely any diagnostics at all. Wow, they are SO WEAK.

And just an FYI that starting fine doesn't confirm that a battery is completely healthy. And a code being set can be a possible symptom of a bad battery - certainly not always or even most of the time, but a possibility nevertheless.

I take it you don't have a multimeter, so definitely take it somewhere to have the charging system tested. And if it's not too inconvenient, you might want to test it at 2 different shops or auto parts stores, because there have been cases reported where certain testing machines don't catch every issue with the battery. Again, I'm not saying this is what's causing the code to be set on your vehicle, just that it's a very basic, standard test to do, early in the diagnostic process.
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I continue to be amazed (appalled actually) how bad so many of these outfits are. ANY code is electrical. The charging system is what provides electricity to the vehicle. I guess 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 for them. Sure, the code might not be caused by a faulty charging system, but to NOT just automatically do a simple load test on it? However, they tell you to do a chain job for $2300, with barely any diagnostics at all. Wow, they are SO WEAK.

And just an FYI that starting fine doesn't confirm that a battery is completely healthy. And a code being set can be a possible symptom of a bad battery - certainly not always or even most of the time, but a possibility nevertheless.

I take it you don't have a multimeter, so definitely take it somewhere to have the charging system tested. And if it's not too inconvenient, you might want to test it at 2 different shops or auto parts stores, because there have been cases reported where certain testing machines don't catch every issue with the battery. Again, I'm not saying this is what's causing the code to be set on your vehicle, just that it's a very basic, standard test to do, early in the diagnostic process.
Thanks, I do have a multimeter and know how to test the car, however it is at a new shop now so i do not have access
i will make sure that they test the battery. The difficulty is finding honesty, the shop cant stay open and pay techs if all they do is Battery replacement, so they screw people to keep afloat. Its sad that is why i do all of my own work as much as i can. I should have checked the battery my self or had the auto parts check it.
Yes, definitely check the battery with your meter, with the engine off, and running voltage as well.
jfc what kind of driving do you do to put 120k on in less than 5 years?
I have a 2016 Forte with over 300,000. Personal car I used for delivery of infusion medical supplies. No issues with it other than maintenance and one corroded wiring harness in trunk from a leaky taillight.
So I have authorized timing chain replacement. Using genuine Kia parts which is required for guarantee cost $1,800. Ouch but does not seem like I have options. Changed oil every 5 K miles occasionally 7K guess it was too much. Last Kia for me
Picked up car today $1910.00 for timing chain and exhaust VVT gear (pin was sheared)
Seems to be a common problem. I will sell the car to carmax for $6000 to get my $1900 back
And a few thousand for a new car (won’t be a Kia)
Well it's fixed now, why take a loss? Car market is on fire right now, you'll end up with something worse for the same money. I'd keep driving it.
Well it's fixed now, why take a loss? Car market is on fire right now, you'll end up with something worse for the same money. I'd keep driving it.
I think I will go new, get what I can and put it as a down payment on another car
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