[mike1nw]

It did what it was designed for. To take & remove reliable, dependable long lasting vehicles off the .market to make space for planned obsolescence laptops with wheels.

Exactly. I almost cry, thinking of the decent vehicles and parts just WASTED. I remember driving by local recyclers, really nice and desirable interesting cars stacked 6 high

 

[Aggiefred]

I wonder if there's a hyundai equivalent to the forte

 

[Larry48]

Yeah it's called an Elantra. The 3rd generation Forte was on the previous generation Elantra platform. K4 now shares same platform as the current generation Elantra for about another year. 2017 will be new platform / generation Elantra. Kia is always a platform behind at least with their compacts.

 

[Larry48]

Running these older platforms generally improves Kia's reliability over Hyundai's.

 

[Jaybird Skedattle]

No cvt or turbo for me. A 4 cyl and 6 or 8 speed automatic is best for me mileage and longevity

 

[Larry48]

CVT's from the last five years don't really have many issues. Even the JATCO units Nissan uses are ok now.

 

[msbav8r]

The average car owner trades vehicles about every seven years. For Forte owners who bought their BD model in 2019, that seven year mark is coming up next year.

You can't buy a new Forte as that model was discontinued last year.

So, if you were to trade, would you go for a Kia K4, its corporate sister the Elantra, or another compact car?

Maybe a popular compact SUV? Pickup truck? Or even something electric?

Since Kia no longer manufactures cars with manual transmissions, it will probably be a Subaru WRX with a manual transmission, though I intend to keep my 2023 Forte GT 6M as long as I can.

 

[riatta]

I have heard nice things about the Genesis G70. I think I will look at one of those .

 

[pahiker]

Honda Civic SI or Acura Integra, both are still available with a stick. Really sad that Kia dropped that option, I love my Forte GT.

 

[Jaybird Skedattle]

CVT's from the last five years don't really have many issues. Even the JATCO units Nissan uses are ok now.

cvt reminds me of driving a snowmobile the roar of the cvt when you pass a slow driver I experienced it on my wife's Nissan. Non turbo 4 cyl automatic with more speeds shifting is better for me.

 

[Destonomos]

I'm currently eye balling the future and I'm thinking a 3-4 year old used Genesis GV80 Coupe with 30k miles is what I want. Perfect 2 row for me and the wife and our 2 dogs. It can tow 6k so I can a medium size camper to haul every now and again, and its luxury so it can double as my "arrival car" for outings to friends events and a weekend car. I'm hoping they face lift it and apple carplay ultra is in the facelift.

I am super intrigued by the e-supercharger.

 

[Larry48]

cvt reminds me of driving a snowmobile the roar of the cvt when you pass a slow driver I experienced it on my wife's Nissan. Non turbo 4 cyl automatic with more speeds shifting is better for me.

The older Nissan CVT's were pretty bad. Newer CVT's from last 5 years are much quieter. With the fake shift points they even manage to fool you into thinking they are a normal automatic at least 80% of the time.

 

[ForteGT2]

There is always hope that the next refresh of the Kia K4, 5 or 6 years from now, will look better...

Sales of the K4 are really good right now - we'll see what happens as years go by.

 

[Destonomos]

There is always hope that the next refresh of the Kia K4, 5 or 6 years from now, will look better...

Sales of the K4 are really good right now - we'll see what happens as years go by.

My two next's that I want is Highway driving assist level 3 and carplay ultra.