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Went to my local Sears Hardware store to have them make a copy of my key, but they didn't have the blank for it. The guy told me that Home Depot and Lowes use the same machine as well, so they would not have it either. He said I could try one of our local hardware stores, that has a different machine, which might have the blanks. I'll have to check the store after xmas.

Anyone been able to copy their key? Or do I need to go to the stealership? Sears guy did let me know the key is not chipped.
 

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Its not that the machine will not cut them, it will if they have the correct cartridge. The issue is that no one but the dealer stocks the chipped blanks, so the keys wouldn't start the car even if they could cut them. It might be possible to find some retail place who has non chipped keys to cut, but all they can be used for is opening the door. I actually did this on my 06 dodge 3/4 ton. I cut a non chipped key, placed it in a hide a key under the bed rail so I could open the door if I locked the keys in it. But if someone found the hide a key, they couldn't start the truck with it.
 

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The key isn't chipped, I don't need it to be chipped anyway. I just need the key to lock and unlock the door.

Basically I want to keep the engine running, but lock the car to run into the store or other quick things. On my old car, I could just leave the key in and take the fob with me to lock the car. Then unlock it once I returned. The Forte doesn't allow this (fob won't do anything with the key in the ignition).
 

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I don't know if the older Kia's used the same key in a non chipped version. If so, you should be able to find a non chipped blank. I am sure a true locksmith could get you a blank and cut it pretty cheaply.
 

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I imagine any good locksmith has blanks but I know these are available on ebay because I had to purchase some for a couple of bucks a piece. They are inexpensive and can be cut at any hardware or auto supply store that cuts keys. Be thankful they aren't chipped keys which cost an arm and a leg if you lose one. The key fobs are also dirt cheap on ebay and I have a couple of extras squirreled away just in case. I think I paid about $6 each. The 2009 Sonata and 2011 Forte's keys appear to be identical although one won't start or open the other but they readily go into the starting switch or door. Evidently they no longer make the valet keys which are slightly thicker than the regular keys.

Here is other ebay items which should fit just fine.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HYUNDAI-SONATA-KEY-BLANK-VERACRUZ-NEW-2006-THRU-2010-/260711148021?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ASonata&hash=item3cb39869f5

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-Ki...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a5af1fd66
 

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Home depot wont copy a chipped key. At least the one here in chino. They told me if they copy the key to a non chipped key it could damage the chip. I think they were an idiot though. Why the hell would tracing a key damage a chip?
 

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Home depot wont copy a chipped key. At least the one here in chino. They told me if they copy the key to a non chipped key it could damage the chip. I think they were an idiot though. Why the hell would tracing a key damage a chip?
They were mistaken when they told you it could damage the chip, what they meant to say is it is company policy and an agreement with axcess to not cut a chip key. This being because "it could cause damage to the car".

Not like this is true, it may cause the vehicle to temporarily lock out but not damage it.

The Kia dealership here don't up-charge on there keys (so they say) and they charge $7, however my Ex is not chipped.
 

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Went to True Value and they were able to cut the key for only $2.25 :). They have a Hillman (I think?) key cutter machine. Can't believe the blanks cost nearly $10 online....

The kid cutting the key did insist the key had a chip since it's a 2010, wish it did, then I could tell the insurance company it does anti-thief to get my rate a little lower, lol.
 

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So tell me whats wrong with this picture. When buying my forte i never received a second key they told me they havent receiced them in. After 7 month i asked them again (like the 20th time) they said it was in. When i picked it up i had to pay 22$ for it. It was cut and all. Did anyone else pay for there 2nd key?
 

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$22? :eek:

You are in the US, so the key doesn't even have a chip. Did it come with the fob or do you have an LX that doesn't have that? I would definitely complain.

If they asked me for $22 for the key, I would of told them where they could stick that key ;)
 

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The U.S. version (at least) is a non-chipped key. These are readily available any number of places and I can get a blank cut for 99 cents down at the local NAPA auto parts store. So far as I know the Hyundai and Kia blanks are identical except for the embossing on the rubber/plastic covering the top of the key. I didn't have but one key when I bought an older Sonata and got a couple of blanks off ebay for about $2 apiece and had another one cut. I also had to obtain another key fob and that was about $6 which it was necessary to have programmed at the dealership. Can't remember if he charged me anything to do that but it was insignificant. But as for the key itself, it can be cut anywhere. You don't even need to take it off your key chain.
 

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So tell me whats wrong with this picture. When buying my forte i never received a second key they told me they havent receiced them in. After 7 month i asked them again (like the 20th time) they said it was in. When i picked it up i had to pay 22$ for it. It was cut and all. Did anyone else pay for there 2nd key?
That's outrageous! Was this a new car? If so you should have been provided two keys; two fobs and a full tank of gas. If they charged you even one cent for the second key which should have been given to you in the first place, they are a bunch of crooks.

Having said that, if you purchased a used car, a lot of dealers will only keep one key on hand. That's a different story and their prerogative. If it is a new car, the the dealer, is as I said, a flat out crook. I would complain to the state auto dealer's association. I had a run in with another dealer (not Kia or Hyundai) where some shenanigans were done and I got another $500 out of him to settle my grievance. Subsequently we purchased three new cars from there afterward.
 

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new car 3 miles on it. i am going to look for my receipt then and talk to the manager and i never received another key fob was i suppose to get a second one?
 

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new car 3 miles on it. i am going to look for my receipt then and talk to the manager and i never received another key fob was i suppose to get a second one?
My car came with 2 keys + 2 key fobs and full tank of gas. Mine had 17 miles on it.
 

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My 2011 Forte had 62 miles on the odometer and I received two keys, two fobs and a full tank of gas and it was cleaned up before I took delivery. The dealer owes you another key and fob. If he doesn't provide you those items I would get downright nasty with them. You don't have to put up with this garbage. What's with these idiots anyway?

I'd contact Kia if those items are not provided within the next 24 hours including the full tank of gas.
 

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Did you guys have a black tag with a code on it, attached to your key(s)? I was in a rush to pick my car up, thought I heard the salesmen say it was my radio code. According to the manual, it should be my key code. Now, I'm not sure, first 2 characters are letters, followed by 4 numbers.
 

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Did you guys have a black tag with a code on it, attached to your key(s)? I was in a rush to pick my car up, thought I heard the salesmen say it was my radio code. According to the manual, it should be my key code. Now, I'm not sure, first 2 characters are letters, followed by 4 numbers.
I'm speculating right now but I think there probably was a black tag with code. And if you didn't get one there might be a very good reason for it if the vehicle was financed. If the code is known, it is easy for the repo man to cut a blank key to fit the vehicle in question and just drive the car away.

As I said, I am speculating but I can speak from personal experience in that many centuries ago I worked in a loan office and we had the sales contract with the key code and when we wanted a vehicle picked up, simply give the code to the repo agency; they cut a key and presto, chango, the car car disappears with no hassle.

Next time I'm at the dealer I'm going to inquire about this. I have a vague recollection of this but it might have been for another vehicle. That would be the one valid reason I can think of why the new owner wouldn't also be given the code for safe keeping in the event both keys were lost or stolen. To have a locksmith come and get into a vehicle lacking the code is bound to be uber expensive. With the code, he could simply cut a new key and you'd be off and running.

I stand to be corrected but I thought I would throw this out. If you paid in full, the dealer should have given the black tag to you as they had not valid reason to retain it.
 
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